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PAK-FA 5th Generation Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by tariqkhan18, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. tariqkhan18

    tariqkhan18 Major Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Please post all your news, information and updates regarding PAK-FA here.

    Thank you.

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  2. Osiris

    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Russian Air Force to buy over 60 fifth-generation fighters

    The Russian Air Force will receive more than 60 fifth-generation fighters from 2015-16, the force commander said on Tuesday.

    "The Air Force will start taking delivery [of fifth-generation fighters] in 2015-16. The preliminary number is over 60," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

    He also said the first batch of new fighters would be provided with older, "non-fifth" generation engines.

    In mid-June Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin observed the 16th test flight of a prototype fighter.

    Deputy Defense Minister for Arms Procurement Vladimir Popovkin said the Defense Ministry would purchase the first 6 to 10 aircraft after 2012, based on the outcome of initial tests. He said the fighter will be superior to similar U.S. models.

    The prime minister said 30 billion rubles (around $1 billion) had already been spent on the project and another 30 billion would be required to complete it, after which the engine, weaponry and other components would be upgraded.

    He said the fighter would have a service life of 30-35 years, if modernization and upgrades are factored in, and would be around three times cheaper than its foreign analogs

    Russia's only known fifth-generation project is Sukhoi's PAK FA and the current prototype is the T-50. It is designed to compete with the U.S. F-22 Raptor, so far the world's only fifth-generation fighter, and the F-35 Lightning II.

    Russia has been developing its newest fighter since the 1990s. The country's top military officials have said the stealth fighter jet with a range of up to 5,500 km should enter service with the Air Force in 2015.

    The PAK FA is to be armed with next-generation air-to-air, air-to-surface, and air-to-ship missiles, and has two 30-mm cannons.

    Russian Air Force to buy over 60 fifth-generation fighters | Defense | RIA Novosti
     
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  3. Osiris

    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10 fifth-generation fighters in 2013-2015

    Russia will buy 10 fifth-generation fighters in 2013-2015, and 60 more in 2016, Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin said on Monday.

    Popovkin said the first fighters will be purchased in 2013, while in 2015 a batch of fighters will be tested by the Air Force.

    "We will start the serial purchase of this fighter in 2016 and a batch of 60 fighters will be purchased within a state arms procurement program," the deputy minister said.

    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10 fifth-generation fighters in 2013-2015 | Russia | RIA Novosti
     
  4. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    The west tests its fighters more than the Russians, doesn't it?
    The F-22, EF and the Rafale, were tested for 10 yrs, what's the Russian secret?
     
  5. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    The difference lies in quality and reliability.
    Russians have powerful aircraft, but powerful doesn't mean reliable.

    They are maintenance heavy and need to be upgraded sooner. The western aircraft can fly more sorties, for a longer time, with lesser maintenance and higher reliability.
     
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  6. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Then which path are we heading?,
    The Russian or the Western?
     
  7. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    From Russian to Western.

    Western aircraft are reliable and durable, but Russian aircraft have the brute force, more powerful engines, more powerful radar, more maneuverable etc.

    So its a balance of both that works best.

    Technically Western > Russian. Western aircraft have better tech but Russian aircraft are designed to take out better tech aircraft.

    Russia's doctrine is to take out quality with quantity.
     
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  8. prototype

    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    i still remember the programme dogfights on history channel,every ear ,every fight shown in it had some american plane always shooting down Russian planes,though the opposite side was never shown on the programme,but for the one which r shown ur theory stick relevant
     
  9. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Ah, yes, the show was a little ridiculous, however, the one about future dogfights,:eek::eek:
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    most of this channels r either american or either owned by companies of its fellow partners,b it Discovery,Nat geo or Fox history
     
  11. anish mathur

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    is indian prototype out?
     
  12. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    not yet. The Indian prototype development will start once the PakFa gets into its final form, once its production starts.
     
  13. Osiris

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    PAK FA is Ready to Execute a Complete Program of Flight Trials

    The Sukhoi Company has completed the preliminary on-land and in-flight activities which involved all three engineering prototypes of the Frontline Aviation Advanced Airborne Complex (PAK FA) – the 5th-generation aircraft.

    These prototypes were used for test-bed strength tests, on-land optimization of fuel systems and other work towards flight trials. The flying prototype has made 16 flights. Today, the optimization of aircraft and its safety systems enables execution of a complete program of flight trials, announced the Director General of Sukhoi Mikhail Pogosyan today at the press conference at the Farnborough International Airshow-2010 Press Center.

    The PAK FA took to the air on January 29 in Komsomolsk-na-Amure. The acceptance trials of the flying prototype were fully completed in late March. In April the first flying prototype of the fighter and the avionics testbed used for systems optimization before flight trials were delivered to the flying test center of the OKB Sukhoi Experimental Design Bureau in Zhukovsky near Moscow.

    Upon completion of the required on-bed preliminary tests of the systems, including the static example’s strength testing, on-land optimization of the avionics testbed and of the flying prototype, on April 29 the aircraft started preliminary tests.

    Compared to the previous generation fighters, the PAK FA features a number of unique capabilities, including the functions of a strike aircraft and fighter. The fifth-generation aircraft is fitted with essentially new avionics integrating the function of “an electronic pilotâ€￾ and with an advanced phased antenna array radar. This considerably reduces the pilot fatigue, enabling the pilot to concentrate on performance of a tactical mission.

    The new aircraft’s onboard equipment makes it possible to exchange information in the real time mode both with on-land control stations and with aviation group aircraft. The use of composite materials and innovative technologies, and the aerodynamic streamlining ensure unprecedented radar, optic and infrared stealthiness. This significantly enhances the operational capability against aerial and ground targets in all weathers, day and night.

    Vladimir Popovkin, the Russian First Deputy Defense Minister, in his interview to the Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper, estimated the Russian Air Force’s demand for the 5th-generation fighters at 50 to 100 units. It is planned to complete all tests of the PAK FA airframe in 2011-2012, and to sign a contract in 2013 for a pilot lot of ten aircraft for testing the model’s entire weapons suite.

    PAK FA is Ready to Execute a Complete Program of Flight Trials
     
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    tariqkhan18 Major Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Anyone know how many PAK-FA Aircraft have been ordered by us?
     

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