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Pakistan accuses that RAW kidnaps retired Pakistan Army officer from Nepal

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by NKVD, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Really?
    A US 3500$ -8500$ dollar in Nepal .Really?
    Who are they trying to fooling .?
    Even GCC couldnt provide that salary package for a Linkedin guy initially.

    That even at 5km from the Indian border .He is going to do a five star job in the worst interior of the most impoversied place in South Asia .

    He had served in ISI for around good 6 years .This Lt Col is that much desparate .:D

    Pakistan set this precedent ,they were playing this Yadav shit for a long time .Now let them know that we can also play this game .
     
  2. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I was always under the impression that it was Gujral who largely dismantled our intelligence assets and covert capabilities against Pakistan as a unilateral gesture.
     
  3. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    You both are wrong .
    Desai created some problems to RAW but managed a come back due to the return of Indira .
    Then at 1997 it was IK Gujral that destroyed the entire structure of intelligence.
     
  4. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    This is exactly what I have heard/read. First Desai screwed up big time by giving away to Zia ul Haq that we were aware of their activities in Kahuta, which led to several assets being "burned" and later Gujral unilaterally dismantled our capabilities in Pakistan.

    I've also heard from a few people that before Indira and Rajiv Gandhi had opportunities to strike at Pakistan's reactor, it was during Desai's term originally that Israel planned to strike at Kahuta. But he allegedly killed the whole idea.
     
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  5. A_poster

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    It was I.K. Gujral who did this, not Vajpayee.
     
  6. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It was not Shastriji but IK Gujral who did this blunder. RAW was created in 1967 by Indira Gandhi, well after the death of Shastriji.
     
  7. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Well my knowledge is limited in this aspect, but upto the public docs available it presumed that Mr. Shastri had initiated the dismantling of HUMINT.
    Good to know that RAW is picking up the slack now.

    I stand corrected it was IK Guj who initiated the dismantling.
     
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    That was one instance of Desai passing classified information to Zia and getting Indian agents killed, but apart from that, he also prosecuted RAW and starved it of funding in India as he believed that they were pro-Indira. Gujaral gutted whole wing of RAW that used to do covert-operations in Pakistan.
     
  9. SrNair

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    Now it is totally under the control of PM and NSA Ajit Doval ( a decorated intel operative )
    RAW is really seeing another golden era .And this time it has the help geopolitical might of India.
     
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    Paying back in coins are the only way these Pak terror outfits understand, it has been proved time and again that Pak political establishments are shielding these outfits as it is getting their job done.
    As said earlier India needs to pickup the way it did for East Pak in Baluchistan also.
    Give them refugee status and create a buffer for them to launch. Pak will start listening then.
     
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  11. NKVD

    NKVD Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    R&AW is great But Not the best
    indeed
    Armed forces Of india Has there own Agency Mirror To ISI Since 2002 after formation of DIA.There Operatives or Specialist are Known To be operating inside Afghanistan with mossad.

    Budget And technical resources they enjoy is Par with R&AW even better in some cases.
     
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  12. IndiranChandiran

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    Operating with Mossad in Afghanistan ?? Any links to substantiate these claims ?
     
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    The Lockean 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Think hard ... AB Vajpayee was the Foreign Minister during Desai Government. The RAW was made to report both to him and Desai. And Vajpayee was the PM again - after Gujral, when there was an effort to revive HUMINT was made - only to be given a tepid response to the much touted Lahore Visit.

    Source for you:

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...rody-of-a-government-department/1/401963.html

    Also read Foreign Policies of India's Prime Minsters by Harish Kapur. You will realise the 'effect' of AB Vajpayee on Foreign Policy at the time.



    Started with IK Gujral - followed up by Vajpayee ... I remain firm on my statement.

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/indias-new-language-of-killing/article5963505.ece
     
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    True.But I think post 26/11, this pusillanimous policy was revised .It's not for nothing that we have 4 consulates in 4 corners of Afghanistan .They were there to cultivate sources just to plan for an exigency post a situation like 26/11 where all the assets thus cultivated would be deployed .
     
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  15. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Great GoP. Now U-turn the stone on Kulbhushan Yaday. :india:
     

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