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Pakistan Claims First Submarine Launched Nuclear Missile Test...

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Ripcord322, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Arrays of radars and failproof Missile defence systems can deal this type of issues .
    450 km is not enough .
    But they can increase the range and it will create problems .

    Even in next two decades they will only have less than 15 subs and maximum missiles they can launch would be less than 150 .I think a good investment ,Akash,S 400,S300 ,Barak systems will nullify this problem
     
  2. Inactive

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    You can not initiate a war without any back up of the international community. Even Russia is reeling from the effects of Ukraine campaign.


    It shall not be. You see, the only time India will move to secure Pakistani nuclear sites is if there was a greater instability in the country which may put the nation's nuclear sites and their stockpile including nuclear weapons at risk. I am sure I need not elaborate further on this scenario.

    Don't worry about that aspect .... two front war is something China itself will not like to get involved in. There should, however, be no doubt that we are heading for a confrontation over the next couple of years, if we do not, India can as well look to second foreign colonisation.
     
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  3. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    That is already on list .When ever they began to misregard our concerns the cards were already set in there.

    Now only thing that remaining is NSG and Wassner Arrangement .
    Then they will supply missile systems and tech to Vietnam and other Asean nations
     
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    MilSpec Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Not yet, eventually might is right. I doubt we will ever get there though.
     
  5. Ripcord322

    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Now you are just being emotional and irrational...


    If we do that....
    Then the Chinese might turn up the heat in Naxal Areas...North East and Kashmir...They are much much more financially capable than us.....For every billion we spend...They can spend 10 Billions (and in these games the richer party always wins...)...And also their internal security is miles better than us....and their media is state controlled too....Doing any kind of Propaganda there...is almost impossible...

    We will find it very difficult to assist a separatist movement in China...on the other hand if the Chinese get on to it...They can easily ...very easily damage us.....


    Regarding countries like Vietnam......They know their limits...and than Relations with China are much more Important that the Relations with India....It's because China is much closer to them...They also trade heavily with China.....If Any of their actions crosses the line, there will be Direct, Quick and perhaps devastating consequences on Vietnam...(E.g :- See how the Chinese blocked the Border Crossings of the Mongols...There is a limit to how much we can help them...but there is no limit to how much the Chinese can bully them)

    We do have some diplomatic room...but not that much.....

    We can always sell them conventional weapons...but I doubt Vietnam will ever go Nuclear.....


    What I am trying to say is that.....

    We can never have an ally/Partner in China's Neighborhood....Which is as devoted as Pakistan is to China....China really hit a jackpot with Pakistan....
     
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    They are showing every Intent to do that. Some of which I can mention are
    1. Providing Nuks +delivery systems (Land +air+water)
    2. Ignoring India's legitimate claim over POK
    3. Encirclement in IOR aka Strings of pearl.
    4. Fueling insurgents in NE.
    5. Actively blocking any international effort to curb terrorism
    6 Antagonising India at every International forum
    Any one of these can be considered as an act of aggression by a self respecting Nation State
     
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  7. AbRaj

    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    We simply can't match China, atleast not on our own.
    Man just look at their Military Industrial complex and look at Ours.
     
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    China won t play a direct game..

    Their loss will be huge if they participate in war.. Mean economic loss.

    They hire Pakistan for that purpose.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Exactly...That is where bigger powers...(The US)..come into play....

    But then again....We will have to tow their line at every intl. forum on every issue etc....because we will need them more that they will need us....
    We might effectively kiss goodbye to our major power status ambitions....We will always be seen as a step below China....

    I think before 2050 there will be a major conflict...btw. the States and The PRC..(Military or Economic or any other type...) we will have to be either with, the Chinese or, Against them....

    Anyway...lets hope for peace....
     
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    Meanwhile we are goin to test air launched bhramos soon ... for the last 4 years..
     
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    You are ignoring the history.
    Both 65 and 72 they were more than willing to open the 2nd front with Pakistan.
    And if anyone is thinking that we are at war with Pakistan. They are missing the forest for a tree here
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    We will do " Kadi Ninda" .
     
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    In most probability that's exactly what we are going to do :biggthumpup:
     
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    I fail to understand how a border conflict ...or say even a war will damage them economically....
    Their Economic Centers are far form their border with India...
    There is no way we will attack them...unless of course there is a huge bombing campaign...on both the sides...
    Then too they are very well protected (since those centers are far off and we cannot open a front on their east coast....)

    I have to acknowledge...in case of any kind of a conflict...they have a significant advantage...
     
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    This test probably what China announced last time..
    Will arm Pakistan with missile ..

    Having announced SUb launch K4, there is high chance for Babur to get tested from Song class submarine...

    But Chinese are poised to arm them with both anyways.
     

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