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Pakistan, Russia, China inch closer to formal alliance

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Agent_47, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    "ISLAMABAD: For well over two decades, Islamabad and Moscow competed against each other to pursue their interests. But that is history now. The two are all set to become part of a possible alliance in a dramatic turnaround in their otherwise frosty relationship for decades.

    What has compelled Pakistan and Russia to join hands is apprehensions that the United States may not be interested in bringing stability to Afghanistan for its own strategic interests.

    These fears have now opened up the possibility of an alliance between Pakistan, Russia and China in an unprecedented development that will shape the future of this volatile region.

    Interaction with military and Foreign Office officials revealed that the three countries are inching closer to formalising their relationship with an aim to bring regional stability particularly seeking a political solution to the Afghan war.

    All of them who spoke off the record in order to give more candid perspective said Pakistan as well as China and Russia reached a conclusion that the US wanted to prolong the conflict in Afghanistan. This situation, officials pointed out, has left Pakistan with no other option but to seek a regional solution by involving countries such as Russia, China and Iran.

    Moscow already hosted two meetings involving Pakistani and Chinese officials to discuss the Afghanistan problem. Another such gathering with larger audience is also scheduled later this month. The objective of these meetings is to evolve a regional consensus for the lingering conflict in Afghanistan.

    The biggest fear among the regional countries including China and Russia is the emergence of ISIS in Afghanistan. There were reports that thousands of fighters were being sent to Afghanistan from Syria, a development, Pakistan, Russia and China believe is aimed at further destabilising the war-torn country. These countries suspect that the US may be using ISIS as proxy to further its interests particularly to counter China and a resurgent Russia.

    For Pakistan, this is dangerous scenario as prolonged instability in Afghanistan will continue to cast shadow on its progress and stability. “Due to these compulsions Pakistan has now reached out to Russia and other regional countries,” commented defence analyst Lt Gen (retd) Amjad Shoaib.

    Gen Shoaib, who is still closely connected with the military establishment, endorsed the assessment that the US was not ready to bring stability to Afghanistan. He also claimed that Pakistan already conveyed the Trump Administration that Russia and China were coming in a big way in Afghanistan if the US does not take steps to clear the mess.

    Both Russia and China have endorsed Pakistan’s stance on Afghanistan seeking an all inclusive reconciliation process. In a trilateral meeting held in Moscow in December, Russia and China agreed to a flexible approach to remove certain Taliban figures from United Nations sanctions lists as part of efforts to foster a peaceful dialogue between Kabul and the Taliban movement. This was one of the major demands of Afghan Taliban in previous round of discussions brokered by Pakistan between the insurgent groups and Kabul.

    However, the US was not ready to accept it, something officials here pointed out showed Washington’s lack of interest in seeking a peace deal. In fact, Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansoor, before being killed in a drone strike, was pushing for this demand to be accepted in order to show skeptics within the insurgent group the benefits of seeking peace process.


    But contrary to the tough US stance, China and Russia are willing to show flexibility in a bid to give way for genuine peace efforts.

    The unending Afghan problem has brought Pakistan and Russia so close that the two are now taking their ties to new heights in terms of strategic and defence cooperation. Only last week, Pakistan army took a high-powered Russian military delegation to the North Waziristan Agency (NWA) to give them the firsthand account of the country’s anti-terror gains. The development is part of a series of steps the two countries have undertaken in recent years to open a new chapter in their relationship that have long been held hostage to the politics of cold war era.

    The rapprochement first began in 2011 when Islamabad had decided to broaden its foreign policy options after its relations with the US deteriorated first due to a secret raid at Abottabad to kill Osama bin Laden in May 2011 and then killing of 24 Pakistani soldiers in Nato airstrikes at Salala Check post along the Afghan border.

    The joint session of parliament after debating the negative fallout of the US and Nato actions approved the new foreign policy guidelines that envisaged reaching out to Russia. Unlike on other issues, there is complete consensus among the political parties as well as civil and military authorities that Pakistan must improve its ties with Russia.

    “This is a realistic approach and is good for our interests,” said Gen Shoaib, who added that increased cooperation with Russia did not necessarily mean that ties between Pakistan and the US lost their utility."

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1372490/pakistan-russia-china-inch-closer-formal-alliance/
     
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  2. OverLoad

    OverLoad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    So what about isolation of Pakistan?
    Pakistan is historical close to Turkey, China and Russia right now even now commanding the Arab coalition, UAE starts supplying high tech military goods which they purchased for themselves.
    Economically we are growing CPEC rapidly becoming reality, Gawadar Port is operation and all of our defense projects running successfully.
     
  3. AnGrz_Z_K_Jailer

    AnGrz_Z_K_Jailer FULL MEMBER

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    ^^^

    Bro it is depend how you take this term Isolation but so far I must appreciate Indian strategist not a single bullet is fire but have half of the Pakistan is sold out it is a masterstroke played by by India. Your Generals are obsess with terms like Cold start, isolation and in desperation the results are very obvious land and ports for Sale. 1st phase of Physiological war already won by India and rest you guy's are very good at destroying your own country.

    CPEC is the pet project to sustain the economy of Pakistan armforces very soon you will be hearing Karachi port for sale and airports, airbase are the done deal.

    I have lived in gulf countries including Saudi Arabia for more then 10 years and I know the ground realities how the Sheikhs and other Habibi treats you guys. It not surprising they have nominated General Raheel Sharif to lead the coalition PA is army for rent please check out your history.


    Regards,
    Jailer
     
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  4. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Pakistani fir se hil gya
     
  5. ranadd

    ranadd 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    This Pakistani obsession of military supremacy will just ruin the country. I mean, they are trying trying and trying. But what is there to show. Ahtum bamb. Ahtum Bamb

    I don't agree with other posters saying that Pakistan will pay for the CPEC. They are idiots.

    They don't realize that Pakistan openly wants to be the new Chinese province and its already sold to them.
     
  6. IndiranChandiran

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    Ibtada ishq hain rotaa hain kya,
    Aage aage dekhiye hotaa hain kya.
     
  7. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    There is no one to support Pakistan on international forum except China and Turkey and this is only because China is already India's enemy and Turkey want to sell its second hand arms to Pakistan. Russia is only playing with mouth . Tell me that day when Russia will do anything beneficial for Pakistan on ground level and will choose Pakistan over India.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Bhai yeh crack wala bakwaas pe time kharab mat karo.
     
  9. YarS

    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We are allies of both of you, and we do different things that beneficial for both of us. For example we sell them copters Mi-171E, medi-tech, working together for gaz pipe Lachor-Karachi, etc..
     
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    ranadd 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    That is India's problem.
     
  11. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    in the end Russia will have to choose one ....bcz India is not going to ALLOWthis
     
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  12. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    You can't be ally with a "terrorist state" and then claiming that you are with India in fighting terrorism.
     
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    Of course we can. Do you know situation about Azerbajdan and Armenia?
     
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    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    If one of you, guys, will make stupid things (like sudden nuclear strike) we shall make our choice, but I'm not sure you will like it.
    In my opinion India should be united, but there are no real vision of good future nor in India neither in Pakistan.
    I hope, you can imagine how you can co-live in one state with them.
     
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    Good buddy.

    Pretty sure Russia already made its choice. The last mega deals we will ever see are already being signed, 110% you wont see deals of this scale again. So India and Indians are already weaning off of Russia.

    You guys were good to us. Thank you. But, as all good things, it needs to end.
     
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