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Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by tariqkhan18, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Butter Chicken

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    Picking up on SuSwamy's comments on breakup of Pakjabistan by 2018,Pak Media seems very concerned.Also alleging that Nawaz Sharif wants to create Greater Punjab by collaborating with India.

     
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    Just before the pakistan SC verdict in Panama case, Mr. Jindal had gone to Pakistan with a special message from PM of India. I had at that time stated that it was to forewarn Nawaz of the impending verdict and to give him an offer to break up Pakistan to reduce it to Punjabistan only. just after the verdict even Nawaz had stated that Pakistan will now break up. The dice was set in Delhi.
     
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    What do u think will be Washington's role in this?I think it will be limited to securing Pakjabistan's nukes in a joint operation
     
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    Punjabistan will inherit the nukes of broken up Pakistan and will be forced to give them up for future stability and financial aid.
     
  5. Butter Chicken

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    Pak Media saying Ishaq Dar is foreign agent,has destroyed Pak economy and will now have to give up its nuclear weapons in order to survive as a state

     
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    The nuclear dimension

    Even if Pakistan and the US are able to reconcile their divergent positions on Afghanistan, the emerging strategic alignments that will shape policies in Asia are unlikely to change. The US has chosen India as its major strategic partner in Asia to counter the rising power of China. The resulting escalation in the Indian threat to Pakistan’s security is either irrelevant for the US or part of its strategic plan to weaken Pakistan’s opposition to Indo-US regional domination. The recent visit of the US defence secretary to India has confirmed and reinforced their strategic alliance and intention to collaborate in Afghanistan.

    Pakistan’s ability to resist Indian diktat and to disagree with America’s strategic design flows from one principal source: its nuclear and missile capabilities. Without this, Pakistan would have been attacked like Iraq or sanctioned like Iran. On the other hand, North Korea, despite its isolation, has been able to thumb its nose at America because of its demonstrated nuclear and missile prowess.

    An Islamic nuclear power was always anathema for America and much of the Western world. The US worked ceaselessly — even when Pakistan was a close ally — to retard and reverse its nuclear and missile programmes. This endeavour has intensified since the emergence of the American alliance with India. Apart from the discriminatory technological and political restrictions it has long imposed against Pakistan’s strategic programmes, the US now demands that Pakistan unilaterally halt fissile material production and the development and deployment of short- and long-range nuclear-capable missiles. Meanwhile, it is actively assisting India in enlarging and modernising its nuclear arsenal, its missile and anti-ballistic missile capabilities, its air and naval forces, as well as satellite and space capabilities.

    There are credible and not-so-secret reports that the US has formulated plans to seize or destroy Pakistan’s nuclear weapons in a crisis. American think tanks have concocted scenarios of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists or, even more absurdly, of the Pakistan Army turning into an ‘extremist’ or ‘jihadi’ force. Indeed, such scary scenarios could be engineered as an excuse to execute the ‘seize or destroy’ plans.

    Matters are more likely to come to a head in the event of another war between Pakistan and India. Kashmir is an ongoing dispute and a nuclear flashpoint. Every India-Pakistan war game confirms the likelihood of a rapid escalation of a conflict to the nuclear level due to the asymmetry in conventional forces. A war should thus be unthinkable. Yet, India’s political and military leaders continue to speak of ‘surgical strikes’ and a ‘limited’ war against Pakistan. If India does ever decide to go to war with Pakistan, it would have to first conduct a pre-emptive strike to eliminate Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence capabilities. Or, would the US be prepared to do so on India’s behalf? Pakistan must be prepared for both contingencies.

    Islamabad must presume that in the course of its past (ill-considered) ‘cooperation’ with the US to enhance the ‘safety and security’ of Pakistan’s nuclear assets, the US has gained considerable intelligence about Pakistan’s strategic assets. However, Pakistani officials correctly discount America’s ability to seize Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. These are too many, and too widely dispersed and well protected, thus not amenable to any seizure or strike. But nuclear delivery systems are more difficult to hide and protect.

    In a crisis, it is the delivery systems that will be the prime target of a pre-emptive strike. These are most likely to be detected when, in a crisis, they are being ‘mated’ with the separately stored warheads. Furthermore, as revealed during the current Korean drama, missile launches can be sabotaged by cyberattacks and other technical means.


    In the emerging strategic scenario, nuclear deterrence is Pakistan’s ultimate assurance against external aggression and coercion.

    Pakistan needs to take several measures so that the credibility of its nuclear deterrence is assured. One, the massive deployment of artillery and short-range missiles (à la North Korea) as the first line of conventional deterrence and defence against an Indian Cold Start attack. This would deter Indian attack and also raise the nuclear threshold. Two, the multiplication of long-, medium- and short-range nuclear-capable missiles to ensure the penetration of any ballistic missile defence systems that India deploys. Three, the continued production of fissile materials to provide warheads for the enlarged missile force.

    Then, there is the need to ‘mate’ at least some warheads with delivery vehicles, their dispersal and disguise, or protection in hardened silos, to respond to a pre-emptive strike. Eventually, submarine-launched ballistic missiles could provide an assured second-strike capability. Five, the deployment of effective air defence systems plus a limited number of advanced (and expensive) anti-ballistic missile systems to protect command and control centres. Six, the development of offensive and defensive cyber-warfare capabilities.

    Following this, Pakistan needs the acquisition and deployment of early-warning capabilities — satellites, surveillance aircraft and drones. In the meantime, Pakistan should utilise Chinese early warning capabilities. Lastly, greater integration and inter-operability with Chinese land, air and naval forces to enhance conventional and strategic deterrence, quickly and cheaply.

    Once Pakistan can demonstrate the complete credibility of its nuclear deterrence posture, its offers to negotiate peace and security in South Asia and to resolve the Kashmir dispute may evoke a more positive response from both India and the US. Pakistan will then also be able to pursue its socioeconomic objectives free from the threats of external coercion, intervention and aggression.
     
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    Petrol and high speed diesel in Pakistan to cost RS 73.50 and RS 79.50 a litre. The local population is being exploited by babus in neighboring country as well. Screenshot_20171002-174412.png
     
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    Time To Declare Pakistan, Qatar, Turkey Terror Sponsors: Former Pentagon Official


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    A former Pentagon official has said that it is time for the Trump Administration to designate Pakistan along with Qatar and Turkey as state sponsors of terrorism.

    "It is time to hold Pakistan to account. If Pakistan then wishes to escape sanctions, it must imprison terrorists on its soil and cease any funding and equipping of them," said Michael Rubin, a resident scholar with American Enterprise Institute (AEI), in an op-ed in The Washington Examiner.

    Since 1979, the US State Department, similar to India's Ministry of External affairs, has maintained a list of State Sponsor of Terrorism.

    So far the Secretary of State has designated Libya, Iraq, South Yemen, Syria, Cuba, Iran, Sudan and North Korea as State Sponsor of Terrorism after determining that these have "repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism".

    Over the years many of these countries were gradually removed off the list. As of now, three countries are on the list Iran, Syria and Sudan.

    However, Rubin, a former Pentagon official in his op-ed argues that at a time when the world is infested with terrorist activities, the US needs to return the terror list to its original purpose: calling out states which embrace terrorism, no matter whether they are US allies or not.

    Three countries, he argued, deserves to be on this list. They are Turkey, Qatar and Pakistan.

    Alleging that under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey has enabled and supplied the Islamic State and al Qaeda-linked groups inside Syria, Rubin said Qatar has not only become the chief banker to Hamas, but it also finances the most radical al Qaeda-affiliated groups in Syria and Libya.

    "Pakistan has escaped the state sponsorship of terrorism list for far too long," he asserted.

    Alleging that leaders of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence openly supports the Taliban, Rubin said Islamabad continues to tolerate and support an array of terrorist groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad, which recruited the Times Square bomber, and Lashkar-e-Taiba, responsible for the 2001 attack on India's parliament and the 2008 slaughter of tourists at a Mumbai hotel.

    "Nor is it credible that al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden lived in Abbottabad, Pakistan's equivalent of West Point, without senior Pakistani authorities knowing it," he said.

    Rubin observed that occasional Pakistani government crackdowns on these groups are insincere: Even for the most high-profile terrorists, Pakistani prisons have revolving doors.

    Perhaps the Bush and Obama administration gave Islamabad a pass because they wanted Pakistans logistical cooperation in Afghanistan, but it didn't work, he said.

    "Turning a blind eye toward Pakistani terror support cost scores of American lives, even as Pakistani leaders received billions of US dollars," he added.

    http://www.defencenews.in/article/T...rror-Sponsors-Former-Pentagon-Official-383890
     
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    Pakistan to pay back $100 bn to China by 2024

    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has to payback $100 billion to China by 2024 of total investment of $18.5 billion, which China has invested on account of banks’ loan in 19 early harvest projects mostly relating to energy sector under China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

    The sources in Chinese Embassy told ‘The News’ that loans which China had given to Pakistan were considered as concessional loans, having special subsidy from the Chinese government. These loans are not the burden on Pakistan economy, as these constitute only 1.1 percent of total Pakistan foreign debt.

    The sources said that Chinese financial assistance to Pakistan made a big contribution in strengthening Pakistan’s economy. Four years back GDP of Pakistan was 3.6 but now it reached 5.2, this reflected the fact that CPEC has played a major role in the economy of the country,” sources added.

    Embassy’s sources further said that Chinese companies working in Pakistan has taken loans from Chinese banks for different development projects under CPEC and these companies are responsible for paying back loans not the Pakistani government.

    The sources further said that China is also providing free assistance to some high-profile projects like construction of Gwadar Port, motorway linking Gwadar Port, schools and emergency health care centers etc. In future, China has planned to build more emergency healthcare centers in different parts of the country.

    So far there are around 20,000 Pakistani students getting education in China. A large number of them are on Chinese government scholarships. CPEC also contributed in overcoming unemployment problem in Pakistan. As many as 60,000 Pakistanis got jobs in CPEC-related projects and 24,000 people got direct employment in different projects of CPEC. The sources said that in the next phase, china will focus to build industrial parks, which will bring not only Chinese but also other countries’ investment to Pakistan.
     
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    Funny, Chinese students flock to the US and Pakistani students are studying in China
     
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    Modi should resign!:biggthumpup:

     
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    We learned nothing from the fall of Dhaka, says Nawaz
    (Nawaz giving more hints about imminent breakup up Pakistan.One of Ganja's aides also said that Pakistan will be next Syria,Iraq or Libya@vstol jockey)

    Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PMLN) president Nawaz Sharif today warned the nation saying we learned nothing from the fall of Dhaka which led to Pakistan regressing behind all independent countries around us.

    He was addressing party’s General Council meeting at Convention Center in Islamabad.

    "Those who violated constitutional oath remained sadiq and ameen," ousted PM Nawaz deplored.

    "The people will decide through their vote [in general elections of 2018] who is qualified and who is unqualified," he said.

    While paying tribute to lawmakers who passed Electoral Reforms Bill 2017, Sharif said that he is giving this black law back to former military ruler General (r) Pervez Musharraf today who introduced it to curtail his entrance in politics.

    “I served nation cordially”, he said while adding that, “I was ousted merely on basis of Iqama as no wrongdoing was found in Panamagate”.

    Nawaz stated that he was ousted over not receiving salary from his son.

    He apprised attendants that 12 questions posed during lawyers’ convention in Lahore remained unanswered.

    He said no action committed during dictatorial rule was taken notice of under Article 184 (3) of the constitution. The petitions for Sharif s disqualification were heard under Article 184(3).

    "I ask, is ehtasaab [accountability] for Nawaz Sharif only?" questioned Nawaz.
     
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    From the days of Pakistani jihad incorporated

    Growing up in the Jihadist Pakistan of the late 1980s and 1990s had certain advantages that ignorance bestowed upon its adherents. Youth — myself included — carried a very simple worldview that had a promise of an ultimate victory for (Pakistani) Muslims, and a crushing defeat for the non-Muslim world. A large chunk of my generation, and that too coming from lower middle and poor social economic strata, felt extremely charged and motivated to go out, wage Jihad, kill and be killed. Aggression and death were romanticised by whatever form of the publicity was available those days with PTV in the lead.

    I clearly recall that Jamaat-e-Islami and other Jihadist organisations would bring Mujahideen from Afghanistan to my little hometown, Malakwal, to motivate the local youth, and probably also as part of a larger narrative building in favor of the State that fought in Afghanistan. Once the Afghan Jihad was ending, the Kashmir Jihad started, and the Jihad Incorporated started bringing to Malakwal Kashmiri Mujahideen. These Mujahideen would address throngs of locals at the erstwhile Railway Chowk, later renamed as Milad Chowk when Gen Zia started his synthetic Islamisation.

    I also remember writing to Jamaat-e-Islami in early 1990s along with my paternal cousin Danial to recruit us and take us to Bosnia. We, as youth, wanted to die in glory of the battle, and what better way could be to heavens than dying in the name of Allah in a foreign battlefield where Muslims were persecuted, brutalised and killed? I and Danial were not alone who fell victim to an extremely unhealthy national narrative of militancy that eventually drove Pakistan to where it is now.

    A relief that neither I nor Danial went to fight anywhere and survived to live our lives today — but many did. Some returned, some didn’t. The ones who didn’t would have their names written on shabby metallic boards alongside the potholed roads, mostly in the countryside of Punjab where their mothers mourned, fathers wept silently, sisters longed for brothers, and wives stared with empty eyes unsure of their future. As it all happened to poor and lower middle-class families in Pakistan, the official and religious leaders of the Jihad Incorporated had their sons becoming bankers, doctors, actuarialsts, industrialists, stock brokers, and computer engineers. These sons and daughters of the official and religious leaders greatly benefitted from the economy of a falsified Jihad. Ironically, they now make quite a fair part of the ruling elite and lecture lesser human beings about Pakistan.
     
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    Nawaz Sharif RAA agent?

     
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    hahahahahaha
     

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