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Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by tariqkhan18, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Scotlander

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    Bhatt's son was had connectiona with D. Headley. That's why he was there. Who know INC may have saved him. :)
     
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    Really?
    That's news to me
     
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    'Clerical error' in hijab resolution creates confusion in Punjab Assembly
    Arif Malik

    Confusion ensued in the Punjab Assembly on Wednesday after a member from the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) handed in a resolution and withdrew it within minutes.


    The resolution had reportedly called for making the hijab mandatory for women at the college level all over Punjab.

    According to media reports, PTI MPA Nabila Hakim Ali presented a resolution calling for mandatory hijab for women at the college level across the province, but then withdrew the resolution citing a 'clerical error'.

    Later a different copy of the resolution was submitted by Ali, which said that the hijab should not be made mandatory and that female students wearing the hijab should not be awarded any extra points either.

    When asked for a comment, PTI's Mian Mahmoodur Rashid said, "Nabila Hakim Ali acted on her own accord and did not discuss the move with the party."


    "The resolution did not come from PTI and Ali has been warned against presenting any further resolutions without party consent," he reiterated.

    On Tuesday, Punjab Higher Education Minister Syed Raza Ali Gilani government official had proposed making the hijab mandatory for female students enrolled in the province's colleges.

    "We are leaving our religion behind, we are forgetting our culture and ethics. Hence, I have made the hijab compulsory for our women and sisters in colleges," Gilani had said.

    The minister added that it was his duty to take the step, "as it is the duty of every Muslim".

    "I have also made a policy for it, if your attendance falls below 60pc then we will give 5pc attendance to those girls who wear a hijab," added the higher education minister.

    However, the Punjab government, through its spokesman, distanced itself from the education minister’s proposal saying that no such step was being taken.

    Talking to Dawn after the controversial proposal faced an almost immediate backlash, Gilani had said, “The department has just given a proposal. It is the prerogative of the chief minister to accept it or not.”

    He said a wrong impression had been created that 5pc grace marks would be awarded to a hijab-wearing girl.

    “Some 80pc girl students are already wearing hijab in colleges,” he had added.

    PTI spokesman Fawad Chaudhry had pointed out that the Punjab government was considering this proposal at a time when Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was talking about moderation in the country.

    “We are totally against this as it is discriminatory,” he added.

    Law Minister Rana Sanaullah had said that the proposal to award grace attendance marks to college girls wearing hijab could be the education minister’s personal suggestion, but it had nothing to do with the Punjab government.

    “The government is considering no such policy,” he said, adding in a lighter vein that Gilani should make his spiritual followers (mureeds) wear a hijab instead.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1320659/c...solution-creates-confusion-in-punjab-assembly
     
  4. Inactive

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    @Vyom

    This is what I averred to - the quasi nature of Islam in Pakistan as the state struggles to identify itself. At a certain point of any Psy Ops against an adversary, the protagonist itself loses the sense of reality and fiction.

    @VCheng
     
  5. Vyom

    Vyom Captain GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Pakistan is the first embodiment of Political Islam post war (WW2). By the very nature it is not a "Nation state" but an "Ideological state". It has all the components that a normal nation state has and in addition to it, it has it's ideology (Much like Nazi Germany?). Now the entire state is devoted to protect its ideology, hence, the nation and notion of Pakistan will continue to exist as long the Ideology is intact, that is of the two nation theory (A flawed and paradoxical ideology to begin with).

    That's why territorial threat or Casualties don't matter and this is why every time attacks happen, on any of the components of the Pakistani state, it ultimately impacts the ideology. As seen in terrorist attacks, as both the killer and the victim belong to the same belief system... that creates a paradox in Pakistan's Ideological foundation, where as belief in the founding ideology is shaken. In other words, Pakistan is a "movement" in perpetuity, hence even School kids who didn't intend to lay their lives for a cause become martyrs, simply because every Pakistani Citizen is a part of this movement and cause, by the act of simply existing as one. The Pakistani Citizenship is the membership card of this "cause/movement".

    But Coming to the reality of the world, Pakistan has created a race in its "Members" (Citizens) by its ideological Posturing, people want to become better Pakistanis. Now herein lies the catch : There is an extra constitutional authority validated by the Constitution itself !! That authority is the belief system. Now the nation state has an extra constitutional authority which is Political Islam (with laws and everything), and it is in direct contradiction to what *any* democratic nation state stands for. And as for as for people trying to become better Pakistanis this creates a paradox. So what do they do? Ideologically brain washed they hold on to the "guiding light" of the Pakistani Constitution and use its Authority to Present their case, at times in direct contradiction to their constitution and therefore create a paradox.

    If the above paradox wasn't enough, the belief system and its related texts are contradictory and that's another set of paradoxes in itself and the primary Identity through the Text is for the Arabs and those following it to the "T" are in conflict with their own roots and hence another paradox, they want to become Arabs to become true Muslims (not the case of Pakistanis alone but also evident in Indonesia).

    So the loss of sense of reality and fiction is apparently not enforced but a natural reaction to cope with such paradoxes abound. (Hence Conspiracy theories fly like hot cakes off the self, because all is a part of coping mechanism)

    P.S. : If the above explanation was understood in one go, then my dear either you are fully aware of the Paksitani Situation or you might need to read that again. Not easy to wrap your head around that many set of paradoxes. :whistle:
     
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  6. VCheng

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    Pakistan has crafted its identity on the basis of Islam, and that is both the solution and the problem. It was fine as long as the State managed to define what it meant, but now it has lost this role to the zealots. We can see the effects of this loss of leadership already, and things can only go downhill from here.
     
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    Lol .. I do understand the equation. Refreshing to come across people with clarity like you and @VCheng of the issue.
     
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    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    It may be refreshing to you, but it comes at great cost, even danger, to me. :D

    After all, according to "some people", I rank right up there with H. Haqqani and Bhensa and similar "traitors" for daring to think differently and independently, both strict no-nos in Pakistan. What these zealots do not realize is that the ultimate price for such folly is going to be paid by them and no one else.
     
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    Well put, but please let me add that no nation in the world is as comfortable with its national schizophrenia as Pakistan. :D
     
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    Actually, they will not be the ones paying the price (as per them). It shall be their near and dear ones, their successors. Such long term thoughts are far from their thoughts. A true trait of the subcontinental people sans nationality and identity.

    This seems to be an attempt at gauging the support or lack thereof amongst the political leadership of the country in order to impose a stricter version of Islam. In a way, Bhutto's and then Zia's dream is coming to realisation - establishment of Pakistan as an Islamic State and leader of Islamic World (that is off by a long way)
     
  11. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Pakistan's record shows that when governments, civil or military, flounder, they play up their religious credentials. And it works every damn time, sadly. The whole nation then suffocates, breath by breath, with this constricting boa of its own making tightening its grip inexorably. At least I can keep mentioning this outcome, unpopular as it may be.
     
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    The title says it all:

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1322247/poverty-of-the-mind

    Poverty of the mind
    I.A. REHMAN


    A SHARP decline in the mind of Pakistanis caused by a failure to find rational and efficient answers to the multidimensional crisis of the state is becoming evident with the passage of each day.

    The zeal and vehemence with which the government has campaigned for the revival of military courts were worthy of a nobler cause. It is difficult to recall the government having pursued any public cause with such fervour. Issues such as poverty, hunger and disease have not received even a fraction of the attention given to the creation of a parallel system of justice.

    At the same time, many learned persons have been piling up arguments to prove what should have been accepted as a self-evident truth — military courts offer no answer to the difficulties the state has been facing in its efforts to counter terrorism. The whole debate has underscored the Pakistani politicians’ inability to dispose of matters with as little effort as possible.

    Earlier, the ballyhoo over the success in holding the PSL in Lahore had betrayed a serious loss of equilibrium. It was good that the match was held in Pakistan, that a large number of people were able to watch a game of cricket at the Qaddafi Stadium, and that the security staff had enhanced their reputation for efficiency. But there was no need to play down the embarrassment caused by the spot-fixing scandal nor for claiming that the event had defeated all attempts by the country’s enemies to isolate it or that the path to economic progress had been cleared.

    Issues such as poverty have not received even a fraction of the attention given to the revival of military courts.

    Then for many days the people were treated to a bizarre battle of words between Imran Khan’s detractors and his loyalists over his assault on the foreign players who had participated in the PSL, as if this were the most important issue in the crisis-torn country.

    While the former cricket captain was perhaps careless in his choice of words, his comment was not entirely invalid. There is no doubt that many a retired or discarded player has found PSL-like events to be money-making ventures.

    Besides, tournaments such as IPL and PSL have thrown up a new breed of mercenary sportsmen who owe their loyalty neither to a team nor to any country; they play for themselves. They do provide entertainment to a large number of people, and that means a lot for communities deprived of joy by terrorism, but it is doubtful if they contribute to any refinement of the game.

    These points, however, did not figure in the controversy. Instead, the principal issue in contention was the demand of patriotism.

    Now civil society organisations are calling upon leaders of political parties to solicit their support for the early passage of the bill aimed at the creation of a national commission for the protection of the rights of children. This is a child-majority country where child labour is still quite widespread, girls are still sold in marriage by their parents, or given in marriage to men old enough to be their grandfathers to settle disputes, and teenaged maids are tortured by their heartless employers. There can be no two opinions on the urgency of establishing a national watchdog organisation and the need to persuade political parties to back the idea.

    However, civil society has good reason to fear that the relevant bill that took a long time to get through the National Assembly may be delayed in the Senate. Our politicians are not known for appreciating the rights of children. Many of them still believe the demand for the abolition of child labour is a Western conspiracy to undermine the national economy and create hardships for the poor widows who depend wholly on their small children’s earnings. The tactics used to block the bill for the abolition of corporal punishment are no secret.

    At one of its meetings, the Senate Standing Committee dealing with the bill observed that while it supported the noble idea behind the proposed measure it could not ignore parents’ traditional rights over their children. Who knows what objections the traditional defenders of parents’ rights will raise to the bill on the commission on child rights.

    Civil society organisations are hopeful that the government, that has been promising UN bodies the creation of a child rights commission for quite a few years, does realise the need to redeem its pledge before the forthcoming Universal Periodic Review (due in October). These organisations had better conserve their energies for the effort they might be expected to make after the bill becomes the law, in order to ensure that its implementation is not obstructed in the way that the National Commission on the Status of Women and the National Commission on Human Rights were.

    The latest issue of public concern seems to be the abuse of the social media. Some immature and irresponsible persons have provided the censorship-loving authority a justification for curtailing cyberspace. They have also made defence of the right to freedom of expression difficult. While the authorities may succeed in suppressing dissent they might be playing into the hands of extremists who have decided to silence the upholders of people’s rights by concocting charges of blasphemy against them.

    The campaign against Asma Jahangir is so vicious and virulent that the threat not only to her liberty but directly to her life cannot be dismissed. In one of the messages that the faithful have been requested to disseminate as widely as possible — and the instructions have indeed been followed — she has been painted as the most incorrigible sinner since 30 years.

    Considering the government’s poor record in dealing firmly with anyone who drapes himself in holy robes, one seriously doubts its capacity to check the exploitation of common citizens’ religious sentiments to gain political advantage. But unless the menace of intolerance and witch-hunts is effectively curbed there is danger of unofficial courts of inquisition springing up.

    The poverty of the mind is most manifest in the manner in which critical matters are kept out of debate. One hears little about how sustainable development goals are to be achieved, for instance. The reasons for celebrating Pakistan Day — the adoption of the Lahore resolution and the coming into force of the first indigenous constitution — have been denuded of their meanings because of the rulers’ indulgence in their whims and fads.

    Published in Dawn, March 23rd, 2017



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    The irony of celebrating a resolution produced by a civilian political process that led to the creation of the country by a display of military hardware is lost on the nation, sadly.
     
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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will punish social media companies that fail to take action against online blasphemy, the interior minister said on Wednesday, adding that he had requested a meeting with Facebook. Pakistan's government wants social media networks to remove material deemed insulting to Islam or the Prophet Mohammad, and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif last week warned those posting such content would be "strictly punished."
    "(Blasphemy) is not only a problem for Pakistan. This is an issue about the honour of every Muslim," said Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, who is also seeking to meet ambassadors from other Muslim countries to tackle the problem.
    "If we do not get a response from social media, I do not care about anyone, there is nothing greater than our faith. If social media and especially international social media stays on this route then we will have to take strong action regarding social media." He did not specify what action might be taken. Those convicted of blasphemy can face the death penalty under Pakistani law. Right groups say the law is frequently abused in a country where Islam is a highly sensitive subject, and where even rumours of blasphemy have sparked deadly riots. Facebook is the most popular social network in Pakistan. Khan said the company was "ready to send a delegation to Pakistan" and would do so once a date was agreed. Facebook could not be immediately reached for comment. However, a report by the company on Pakistani government requests for data lists 25 pieces of content being restricted between January and June 2016. "Based on legal requests from the Pakistan Telecom Authority, we restricted access to content for allegedly violating local laws prohibiting blasphemy, desecration of the national flag, and condemnation of the country's independence," reads the Facebook page on Pakistan. According to analytics data from Facebook's website, the social media app has about 25-30 million active users in Pakistan, where internet penetration remains poor. Facebook's Instagram unit and rival Twitter are also popular. The ruling PML-N party's tough talk against blasphemy will appeal to its conservative voter base ahead of elections likely to take place next year. At least 65 people, including lawyers, defendants and judges, have been murdered over blasphemy allegations since 1990, according to figures from a Center for Research and Security Studies report and local media.

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    Pakistan threatens social networking sites, asking to provide them info on blasphemous post.
     
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    Four missiles fired from Afghanistan into Kurram Agency
    - JAWED HUSSAIN

    Four missiles were fired from across the Pak-Afghan border into Kurram Agency Sunday morning, according to local political administration.


    A spokesperson of the local administration said the attack which left locals panicked did not cause any loss of life. However, one missile struck a shop in the Shingak area, another landed near a mosque, and two others in a graveyard at Kachkina, he said.

    The spokesperson claimed the missiles were fired from Afghanistan's Paktia province.

    Kurram is one of the most sensitive tribal areas as it borders three Afghan provinces and at one point was one of the key routes for militant movement across the border.

    Bilateral relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have been tense as of late, with officials from both sides traded allegations over terrorism.

    Pakistan's border crossings with Afghanistan had been sealed in the aftermath of a suicide bombing at the shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar in Sindh ─ the deadliest in a series of recent attacks in the country.

    The military leadership had claimed the attacks were carried out by militants operating from safe havens in Afghanistan.

    Though trade between the two countries has resumed at Torkham, the border crossing in Kurram Agency's Kharlachi area has been shut since February 16, 2017.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1324383/four-missiles-fired-from-afghanistan-into-kurram-agency
     
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    Seven more suspects arrested for murder of Mardan university student
    - ALI AKBAR

    Mardan Police on Sunday arrested seven more suspects in connection with the lynching of Mashal Khan, a 23-year-old student who was attacked by a vigilante mob after being accused of blasphemy earlier this week, police officials said.

    The number of suspects arrested in connection with the tragic incident has increased to 22, police added.

    Three amongst the seven suspects arrested were identified with the help of CCTV cameras, police officials said.

    After being arrested, the suspects were presented before an Anti-Terrorism Court, police said. They were handed over to the police on physical remand for one day.

    Earlier today, Inspector General Police (IGP) Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Salahuddin Khan Mehsud presided over a meeting regarding the incident at the Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Office in Mardan, a press release issued by the police said.

    DIGP Mardan Mohammad Alam Shinwari told the meeting that investigation into the incident was progressing at a fast pace, the statement added.

    The DIG briefed present officers regarding the Khan's death, police said.

    "Several of the nominated suspects have been arrested," the statement quoted the DIG as saying.

    The IGP Mehsud appreciated the performance of the police, and said that the investigation is moving in the right direction, the statement read.

    He advised the police to arrest the remaining suspects and proceed with the investigation with transparency and neutrality, according to the press release.

    The meeting was attended by District Police Officer Dr Mian Saeed Ahmed, SP investigation and officials of the CTD.



    https://www.dawn.com/news/1327353/s...ested-for-murder-of-mardan-university-student
     

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