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Pakistan-US had 'understanding' on drone strikes

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by layman, Jul 9, 2013.

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  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    ISLAMABAD — Pakistan reached an understanding with the United States on drone strikes targeting Islamist militants and the attacks can be useful, according leaked remarks from a former intelligence chief.
    Pakistan publicly condemns US missile attacks on Taliban and Al-Qaeda operatives as a violation of its sovereignty, but the new revelations are the latest sign of double-dealing in private.
    They come in findings of a Pakistani investigation into how Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden evaded detection for nearly a decade, which were published by the Al-Jazeera news network Monday.
    Ahmed Shuja Pasha, who headed Pakistan's premier Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency at the time of bin Laden's killing in 2011, told investigators that drone strikes had their uses.
    "The DG (director general) said there were no written agreements. There was a political understanding," the report said.
    The Americans had been asked to stop drone strikes because they caused civilian casualties, but "it was easier to say no to them in the beginning, but 'now it was more difficult' to do so," it quoted the former spymaster as saying.
    "Admittedly the drone attacks had their utility, but they represented a breach of national sovereignty. They were legal according to American law but illegal according to international law," the report quoted the ISI chief as saying.
    He also confirmed that Shamsi air base, in southwestern Pakistan, had been used for US drone strikes against people in the country.
    Pakistan ordered US personnel to leave the base after botched US air strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in November 2011.
    His interviews also laid bare extraordinary levels of distrust between Pakistan and the United States, particularly in 2011 when relations plummeted over the US raid that killed bin Laden and a CIA contractor who shot dead two Pakistanis.
    Pasha said US arrogance "knew no limits" and accused the Americans of waging "psychological warfare" over the whereabouts of Taliban leader Mullah Omar and bin Laden's successor Ayman al-Zawahiri.
    He quoted a US intelligence officer as saying "you are so cheap... we can buy you with a visa," and said himself that systemic failures showed Pakistan was a "failing state".
    The Pakistani report condemned the US raid as an "American act of war" and said the military should have responded much more quickly to a three-hour operation, 100 miles inside its territory.
    It was Pakistan's "greatest humiliation" since East Pakistan seceded in 1971, it said.
     
  2. Keshav Murali

    Keshav Murali FULL MEMBER

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    Not surprising at all!

    The Pakistani Govt's amazing restraint when compared to Hafiz Sayeed & Co. displayed after drone strikes led me to believe the same a long while back :wink:
     
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  3. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Wondering what was that all about bickering that Drone Strikes are illegal and all other crap.
     
  4. Rock n Rolla

    Rock n Rolla Lt. Colonel STAR MEMBER

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    That was to fool the Pakistani people...I think even this govt will allow the strikes through some secret deal !!
     
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    Pakistan intends to raise the issue of the continuing drone strikes by the US within its territory at the United Nations, reported the local media quoting Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman Aizaz Chaudhry on Thursday.

    This decision was taken at the All-Party Conference attended by representatives of the major political forces in the country earlier this week. According to Chaudhry, "all Pakistani missions abroad have received appropriate orders." The government spokesman also said that the US and Pakistan have not signed any secret agreement permitting unmanned aerial vehicles to carry out operations in Pakistan.

    Last Friday, a drone attack in the northwestern Pakistan killed one of the leaders of the Islamist group "Haqqani". On the same day, Pakistan's Foreign Ministry declared that "unilateral decision on drone strikes are a violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan."

    According to the British "Bureau of Investigative Journalism", as a result of UAV attacks in Pakistan between 2004 and 2013, 2600 to 3400 people have been killed in the country, of which 470 to 890 killed are civilians.
    Read more: Pakistan intends to complain to the UN about the continuing US drone strikes - News - Politics - Russian Radio
     
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    Eddie Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Despite denouncing the CIA’s drone campaign, top officials in Pakistan have for years secretly endorsed the program and routinely received classified briefings on strikes and casualty counts, according to top-secret CIA documents and Pakistani diplomatic memos obtained by The Washington Post. Photos of pre- and post-strike drone targets follow; all references to geo-location and sequence numbers have been removed by The Post.


    April 26, 2010 A pre-drone-strike surveillance image shows a target in North Waziristan, Pakistan. The files obtained by The Post describe dozens of drone attacks in Pakistan’s tribal region and include maps as well as before-and-after aerial photos of targeted compounds over a four-year stretch, from late 2007 to late 2011.
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    April 26, 2010A surveillance image shows impact from the drone strike at the compound in North Waziristan. Pakistan’s tacit approval of the drone program has been one of the more poorly kept national security secrets in Washington and Islamabad.
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    April 26, 2010 A surveillance image shows a flare-up following the drone strike in North Waziristan. A CIA spokesman declined to discuss the documents obtained by The Post but did not dispute their authenticity.
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    April 26, 2010 A surveillance image shows the scene post-strike in North Waziristan.
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    June 11, 2010 A pre-strike surveillance image shows another drone target in North Waziristan. There have been 23 strikes in Pakistan in 2013, far below the peak in 2010, when 117 attacks were recorded.
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    June 11, 2010 A surveillance image shows the target after the drone strike in North Waziristan.
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    June 11, 2010 A surveillance image captures a secondary explosion following the drone strike in North Waziristan.
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    Jan. 19, 2010 A pre-strike surveillance image shows another drone target in North Waziristan.
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    Jan. 19, 2010 A post-strike surveillance image of the drone target in North Waziristan.
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    Source: Surveillance images of drone strikes in Pakistan - The Washington Post
     
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    Bingo!!!, You my man has stirred the hornet's nest, Thanks for the pics and Info's.

    Seems like GoP and PA were shedding crocodile tears all along while at the backstage they are rejoicing the killing of the terrorists.
     
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    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    Thank you for upload !!!


    but y the pics are of top quality !!! :troll:
     
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