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Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by MiG-23MLD, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    I would love to, but we don't get paid. :cray:

    No only China can manufacture mythical engines.
     
  2. mirage

    mirage 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    yea yea yea , and who the hell on earth believe chinese claims ( pakistan and north korea for sure ) ? tell you something , chinese father russia and her scientists and engineers are behind every military product china has and will make . only propaganda is 100 % chinese . still a third world country china is . go and talk to the top bureaucrats in heilongjiang before commenting anything about so called indigenous equipment . bye
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Old generation turbos do not use rare earth materials. Ex. even using Russian AL-31F fans J-15s are under-powered.
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Nobody cares your Indian believe it or not. As far as the American Military Force is very concerned with the Chinese rapid development in military industry, that is enough.

    Chinese target is to surpass the American in most of the major technologies in 20 years time.
     
  5. RMFAN

    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Latest generation turbo fan engines for 5th generation jet fighters:

    Pratt & Whitney F135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_&_Whitney_F135
    Pratt & Whitney F119 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_&_Whitney_F119
    Saturn AL-41 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_AL-41
    Chinese WS-15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_WS-15

    (130 kilonewtons (29,000 lbf) of thrust) Turbo fan engines for 4th generation jet fighter:

    Russian Saturn AL-31
    Pratt & Whitney F100
    General Electric F110

    Chinese WS-10

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    Only USA, Russia and China can develop and manufacture the above turbo fan engines in the world.

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    The following models are belong to the medium thrust turbo fan:

    General Electric F414
    Snecma M88
    Klimov RD-33
    Eurojet EJ200
    Chinese WS-13



     
  6. mirage

    mirage 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    yea yea yea , americans are very much concerned . first make a jet engine without the help of russia and then bow bow here . understand ? stealth technology and stealth fighters of china :dumbhorse:, :haha: puny propagandist china is , fake and hollow from i n s id e , wanting to compete america <>? lol , impossible , china still is a third world developing country like Bharat . mend your ways before you break up like your papa soviet .
    anyways , i am waiting for dokalam part II . we can resume our discussion thereafter . bye for now
     
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  7. Angel Eyes

    Angel Eyes 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    The guy is quoting Wikipedia, perhaps he don't know anyone can edit Wikipedia pages.....
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Chinese homemade 4th generation jet fighters (latest models): J-16(twin turbo fan engines) and J-10C (single turbo fan engine) are all powered by Chinese homemade WS-10A turbo fan engines and installed with homemade AESA radar.

    It means that China has been completed the design and manufacture of 4th generation jet fighters. Only USA and China can develop twin engines and single engine 4th generation jet fighters in the world.
     
  9. _Anonymous_

    _Anonymous_ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    We always suspected the French & the Europeans stole the designs of the Rafale & the Eurofighter from the Chinese .Your post does belatedly confirm our worst fears .
    Now go and proudly claim those 50 cents + the bonus the CCP owes you .
     
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    Rafale & the Eurofighter powered by medium thrust turbo fan engines( Eurojet EJ200 thrust : 60 kN (13,500 lbf) and 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner, Snecma M88 thrust: 50 kN (11,200 lbf) and 75 kN (16,900 lbf) with afterburner)

    J-16(twin turbo fan engines) and J-10C (single turbo fan engine) are all powered by Chinese homemade WS-10A turbo fan engines (thrust: 130 kilonewtons (29,000 lbf)) which is a large thrust turbo fan engine.


    You do not realize that WS-10A turbo fan engines (thrust: 130 kilonewtons (29,000 lbf)) is a large thrust turbo fan and not the medium thrust turbo fan engines like Eurojet EJ200/Snecma M88 which are the second class turbo fan engines used in second class jet fighters.
     
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    Yeah! Eurojet EJ200/Snecma M88 are second class turbo fan engines used in second class jet fighters (Eurofighter & Rafales). :biggthumpup:

    HAPPY DREAMING, Just inform me what type of weed or drugs you are on..............:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Do you even know both these engines are modular in design (14 modules for EJ200 & 21 modules for Snecma M-88) out of which M-88 has twin cooling channels to keep infra red signature low which qualifies these engines to be used for 5th gen fighters. Also they have a life of over 6000-8000 hours more than the life of Air Frame..........

    Now for your Junk Stealth Fighter J-20 which runs on outdated smokey engines which will be available to naked eyes let alone advance sensors like AESA and IRST. You can't name a a fighter 5th gen just because it has weapons bay a lot of other things goes into the fighter to make it 5th gen. Even Rafales will be able to bring down FAT PIG J-20 which are more agile and have better sensors comparable only to F-35/22s ..................

    So happy dreaming & keep taking those weeds & Drugs so you can have peace of mind thinking China can make 5th gen fighters and kick ass jet engines...:biggthumpup::biggthumpup:
     
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  12. _Anonymous_

    _Anonymous_ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    You know I wouldn't contradict him if I were you .He gets paid 50 cents per post .What sort of quality would you expect with that kind of payout ? Out in the free world , we have phrases like if you pay peanuts , you get monkeys .Wumaos don't have that choice. Neither do their handlers .

    Let's not deprive him of his livelihood .Be gentle , please !!
     
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