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Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by MiG-23MLD, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. MiG-23MLD


    Jan 18, 2011
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    New leaks from former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden show China stole the designs for American-built F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

    In a large top-secret document dump, provided by Snowden to German magazine Der Spiegel, the extent of the ongoing international cyber warfare between the U.S., its allies and the rest of the world has been outlined.

    SEE ALSO: The 10 Biggest Revelations From Edward Snowden's Leaks

    According to Fairfax Media, one of the confidential documents within the latest leak show Chinese spies stole "terabytes" of design and military information relating to the F-35, also known as the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II. The information was used to assist in the design of China's Chengdu J-20 and the Shenyang J-31 stealth fighter jets, as long suspected by the west.
    The security breach and the retrieval of information regarding the jets is thought to have taken place at the headquarters of Lockheed Martin in 2007.

    The information stolen about the F-35 — which is considered the smartest fighter jet in the world — reportedly shows the radar systems, engine schematics and methods for cooling exhaust gases. The jet's standout feature is the ability to strike without being detected by radar.

    The cyber espionage by China had previously been reported in 2014 by the Washington Times, but this is the first instance official documents have confirmed the attack.

    In October, the Australian government committed A$24 billion to the deployment of 72 of the F-35 jets, making it Australia's largest military purchase, in a move expected to give Australia a regional leg up. The Snowden documents state the Australian government was made aware of the attack.

    China stole Joint Strike Fighter jet designs: NSA document leak
    The reported theft by Chinese spies of designs for Australia's new warplane, the US-built F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jet, highlights the risk of cyber-espionage, an Australian minister said.

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop also told Sky News she was confident that the US would guard its intellectual property.

    She was responding to media reports, citing leaked US documents, of the theft of a huge amount of F-35 data.

    Australia has ordered 72 F-35 jets, due to come into service in 2020.

    The F-35 is the most expensive defence project in US history. The stealth aircraft, manufactured by US-based Lockheed Martin, was developed at a cost of around $400bn (£230bn), in a process dogged by delays and unforeseen costs.

    The US, British and Australian militaries are among the major customers for the jet. Australian and British firms have also been involved in manufacturing parts of the aircraft.

    BBC News - Australia fighter jet data theft 'shows cyber-spy risk'
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  2. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

    Dec 2, 2011
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    First batch of Su-35 fighters to arrive in China between 2017 and 2018

    China is likely to receive the first batch of Su-35 fighters from Russia between 2017 and 2018, if the contract can be signed this year, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

    The first Russian unit to receive the Su-35 was the air force training center located at Lipetsk Oblast. Like Russia, China is likely to equip the tactical training center of the People's Liberation Army Air Force in Guangzhou with Su-35 fighters. Three frontline units of the PLA Air Force will likely receive Su-35 fighters due to their experience of operating the Su-30Mkk fighters.

    They are the 9th regiment of the 3rd Division, the 85th Regiment of the 29th Division and the 54th Regiment of the 18th Division according to the article. Due to their proximity to the disputed East China Sea and Taiwan Strait, the 9th Regiment stationed in Wuhu, Anhui province is likely to be the first among those three units to get Su-35 fighters. As for the 85th and 54th Regiments, their mission is to defend the Chinese interest over the disputed South China Sea from the Guangzhou Military Region.

    Russia has decided to sell only 24 Su-35 fighters to China. Since some of those fighters will be deployed to the tactical training center in Guangzhou, the article claims that fewer than 24 Su-35 are going to serve with frontline units of the PLA Air Force. At the same time, Su-30MKKs from those three regiments are likely to be transferred to other air force units. With more advanced Russian-built fighters, the fighting capability of the PLA Air Force will improve gradually.

    First batch of Su-35 fighters to arrive in China between 2017 and 2018|Politics|News|WantChinaTimes.com
  3. Sathya

    Sathya 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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  4. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    its gonna fgfa vs j20 and rafale m vs j31
  5. halloweene

    halloweene Major STRATEGIST

    May 25, 2011
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    J 20 (into forces) and FC 31 (prototype). China is not interested in FC 31 (too small to fit their doctrina, "tip of arrow").
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  6. somedude

    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I don't agree with that IDRW article. China is most probably not going to buy the FC-31 for itself, so that airplane cannot count on a domestic customer. That means they'll lobby very hard to find export customers. But it's going to be tough, since all countries wealthy enough to afford stealth fighters are either developing their own, buying them from the USA, or otherwise politically unlikely to procure strategic military equipment from China. Pakistan seems to recognize they can't afford it since they remain on the FC-1 (JF-17) program and haven't expressed interest in the FC-31. Shenyang's best prospect is Saudi Arabia since that country is not adverse to buying from China (they bought Chinese howitzers) and the USA won't be selling them their F-35 due to Israeli pressures. But the Saudi already have plenty of modern enough Typhoons and Strike Eagles, so procuring a stealth fighter isn't an urgent need for them; and they've never used Chinese aircraft before, so it's still a longshot.
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