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PM Modi permits surplus power sale to Pakistan: Amarinder Singh

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  1. Levina

    Levina Admin- Social media Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    PM Modi permits surplus power sale to Pakistan: Amarinder Singh
    By Parshant Krar, ET Bureau | Updated: Apr 25, 2017, 05.21 PM IST
    Amarinder Singh today said that Prime Minister Narendra Modi has given green signal to the state to sell surplus power to Pakistan. The chief minister had earlier sought Centre's sanction to supply power across border to curtail expenditure on fixed costs and costly power that state is obligated to buy as per Power Purchase Agreements.

    The chief minister revealed about the positive response from the PM to a CII delegation headed by chairman & CEO, Renew Power Ventures Sumant Sinha, appointed as chairman CII North and managing director Vardhman Special Steels Sachit Jain, appointed as deputy chairman, CII North. Singh also revealed that the Prime Minister had indicated that Punjab should look for other trade options with Pakistan.


    In the last week, the chief minister had sought permission to sell its surplus power to Pakistan or Nepal in the economic interest of the cash-crunched state. The state is left with 1000 MW surplus power after meeting its domestic demand, and consumers are forced to pay extra taxes to sustain fixed cost of power generating units.



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    My intial reaction was "cheating hogayi".
    But then Modi,his doves and Doval's have their own way of functioning..
    As far as my memory takes me back,in 2013,UPA has proposed something similar and it was supposed to be the mother of all confidence building measures. Later in 2015, Adnani had visited Pakistan along with Modi and discussed the sale of up to 4000 MW to Pakistan in phases.
    For the members who aren't aware,14years back Pakistan was supposed to sell power to us(500MW I guess). But the tables have turned now.

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    lca-fan Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Economic sense says it is good move as it will allow us to earn some decent money.

    But seeing it is Pakistan our enemy no. 1 which is suffering from power outages My Heart says NO we should not allow power sale instead look for ways to consume surplus power within our own country by selling power to power deficient states or raising our industrial base to consume it within our own country and let them suffer power outages.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Tabhi itne cut lgte hai Punjab mein :/
     
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    would be worth to note that it will improve the economy of the state (Punjab) and reduce the cost of power to the consumers of the state (since extra power generated cannot be stored - the cost is still to be borne by someone).
    It is easier and cheaper to move electricity to neighboring Pakistan instead of sending it across to NE or UP/MP.
     
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    Bregs 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Economically idea is good for state of Punjab but not at all possible. Punjab is under strange mess with last Govt signing power purchase agreement with cos at Rs 8-9 per unit for long period and state supplies that power at 4.50 to 6.50. so this desperate move by new CM but not feasible to have trade with pak which benefits India more. they will prefer power cut then to buy power from India
     
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    Now Doval can send RAW agents to Pakistan through electricity lines.. :2GUNS:
     
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    Do we have surplus in first place?
     
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    three private cos coal fired power plants were set up in punjab in last 5 yrs and agreements signed by state govt at higher rates to buy and supply to consumer at lower rates. here in lies the surplus power which is expensive and state has to buy as per the power agreements
     
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    Interesting piece of news there. But I don't think this diplomacy is going to get legs but might be a kind of barter for something else. If India can give at cheaper price why would they need Chinese investments in power sector. As the new ADB are targeting huge investments in their power sector vital move to scuttle their ambitions.
     
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    @Nilgiri @PARIKRAMA @Ankit Kumar 001 @Agent_47 @Gessler @Sancho@GuardianRED @Grevion @MilSpec @nair @Sathya @ni8mare

    And so continues India's disjointed, self-defeating and pathetic Pakistan policy. Calling them state sponsors of terror on one hand and then providing them economic assistance such as this on the other.



    And BJP/Modi call themselves nationalists, LOL!

    Every SINGLE ruppee India allows Pakistan to add to its economy is a ruppee that WILL be used against India one day.

    There must be some Chanakya scheme at work, right @Darth Marr ?
     
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    Going purely by theory first:

    Well in this case the price will be put at market rate which is high in pakistan (much more so than India)...it wont be given for free.

    We trade with Pakistan to begin with, if we are not cutting that trade off (esp the levels circuited through Dubai)...than what is difference adding one more good (electricity) to it?

    Electricity does have a multiplier effect in the economy (being both a capital heavy resource and basic means of production in todays economy) but that would actually accentuate the effect of the CPEC mismanagement (which is in India's interest w.r.t Pakistan civilian populace) when that power is used to replace Indian sourced power long term for Pakistani consumers (because they would have gotten used to hassle free indian-based rates...whereas there is much more buffer afforded to CPEC pricing when there is a major deficit to start with).

    We might as well make some money off Pakistan now compared to the money from dumping the surplus in BD etc (where rates are not so high because deficit is not high) before Pakistan gets their CPEC power online (and then get stuck with financing those long term - thats their mess to deal with)....this is a window that will last till about 2019 to 2020. After that it makes no sense given Pakistan will simply be in a CPEC servitude status regarding their finances.

    Now the reality/implementation:

    Mind you this is not going to go anywhere. As far as I see it, it will just add another feather to the hat of "we tried to expand economic engagement but you were unwilling etc"....which suits Modi just fine....i.e making initiatives he knows will fail on Pakistan's side (and thus they hold the burden for it later).

    Pretty sure this is just a poke to Pakistan to say...hey look we have surplus power...hows it going on your side? When they say: CPEC....we say...thats going to work out so great for ya etc.
     
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    Abingdonboy Captain Technical Analyst

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    India should leave Pakistan to its fate vis a vis China/CPEC.

    You are right that this move is justifiable when there is still trade going on via Dubai but this is what I am saying- India has a mismatched and ultimatly ineffective policy towards Pakistan that they take full advantadge of.


    As I have said, every rupee India allows Pakistan to generate is one way or another going to be used against India's interests in the long term. India's leaders are effectively enabling its own abuser and thus deserves the pain they will receive as a result but it won't be them but the innocent common man that pays-with his blood.
     
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    You can see how Punjab government got into fix.
    Oh imagine how Pakistan will be in a hole ? CPEC

    Punjab government have to find the consumer , , better in India than in Pakistan . They can sell cheap power of theirs to other state and consume high cost power themselves .. So can reduce the tax burden .

    There is no dearth of want of power in India ...
     
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    Much better idea , offer it to Baluchistan .

    They will reject the offer , and starve the Baluchistan with power cuts, or cut their own and part it with Baluchistan .:respect:
     
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    I thought Modi already delivered power to Pakistan. What then was Surgical Strike all about? :tank:
     
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