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Population based on “Resource Sufficiency Evaluation” is Crucial

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    Inviting Cats/Dogs Culture to India

    I personally favor excess population of Bangladesh to be shifted to US/UK/Australia/Canada etc.

    its worse to see "Growing Generation of Casual Sex", kids taking birth without father, and growing on the tax money of professional migrants. and hence increase in drugs/high crime rates there, as a result......
    we won't favor kids taking birth in India, as a consequence of inviting Western culture, similar to cats/dogs taking birth on the roads, without any dignity....

    Bangladeshis would definitely input some family values in the Western society :coffee:


     
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    Hunting and gathering, Metro sapien-style, in Vancouver's Granville Island Public Market. (Robert Mullan/incamerastock/Corbis)
    Humans Are Becoming City-Dwelling "Metro Sapiens"

    To achieve sustainability, the human species needs to embrace its urban side, argues public health researcher Jason Vargo

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    Cities have been around for thousands of years, since the first were settled in Mesopotamia between 4000 and 3000 B.C. But only over the last several centuries have humans moved into cities en masse. Now more than half the world's population can be found in urban areas. "Cities are very much the dominant habitat of our species," writes Jason Vargo in the Journal of Environmental Studies and Sciences.

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    Vargo, a public health scientist and urban planner at the Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies and the Global Health Institute, argues that humans, at least in current population numbers, can no longer survive in solely rural lifestyles. To live sustainably, people need to embrace their inner urbanites—and recognize our species not as Homo sapiens, but "Metro sapiens". Vargo spoke with Smithsonian.com about this audacious proposal and what it means for our future on Earth:

    Are city dwellers—Metro sapiens—fundamentally different from people living in the country?

    No. I don't think so. But the reason I use that term is that it embraces this idea that to make it on this planet we're going to have to adopt urbanism to help us minimize our environmental impact on the planet. We're only going to do that if we become Metro sapiens. Homo sapiens, the way that we're doing it right now, probably won't survive. Though we don't see cities as natural, part of my reasoning behind putting "metro" into our species name is to get us to think about how humans have been living in settlements of some kind for a long time now, and maybe that is part of what's natural for us.

    Why are cities, which are the source of many environmental problems, our future?

    It's easy to look at cities and think, well, that's a real scar on the natural landscape. But if we're talking about how a million people are organizing, you can't have everyone living on a single plot of a land with a yard and a tree. You need some sort of denser organization, to conserve the land outside of the cities and also reduce energy use inside cities.

    Those demand-side benefits are important, because those strategies are not talked about very much. When we hear about national energy policy, it's often about increasing efficiency of devices or supply of energy. But people that live in New York City, for example, drive less because they don't have cars. This is something that David Owen talks about in the book Green Metropolis. He calls it "embodied efficiency". The vertical living of New York City actually has this embodied efficiency that makes energy use in our daily lives less.

    Not every city is like that, though, and even New York has its downsides. Which characteristics of urban life should we be adopting?

    It's not just density but intensity, not just quantity but quality, not just location but connectivity. So it's not only having a service nearby, but it's being able to get to that service and access that service. Places need to be high quality. They need to be thoughtful and be places where people want to take ownership and spend time in. If they're not, people disregard them and allow criminal activities to go on. We want people to be outside and socializing, creating communities, being neighbors.

    Are there any cities that others should be emulating?

    There's no sustainable city on the planet, so it can be a bit difficult to tell people that we really need to embrace cities as a strategy moving forward, but at the same time there's no perfect model. Just from a gestalt perspective, I've really enjoyed spending time in … Vancouver. I thought it was really impressive the way the city related to its surrounding environment. Vancouver seemed to have embraced urban strategies, like vegetation on roofs and in right-of-ways to minimize water pollution and maintain water quality.

    But there are other parts beyond just what you see, such as the way that the government works and the way neighbors are engaged in decision-making, that also matter. If you look at the best examples of sustainable cities, you'll see that there have been communities that expressed the values of environmental sustainability or mobility or equity decades ago, and you can chronicle the legislation and the actions and then the physical construction that have been in line with those values.

    What does placing even more of the population in urban environments do for nature?

    It gets easier to preserve the land outside of urban spaces if more people are living more urban lives. So higher degrees of urbanism, because each person is consuming less land, can be really crucial for preserving wild places. Also, if you're working on something like the ecosystem of North Woods or the Central Sands, which is important for farming here in Wisconsin, you're not really seeing the whole picture if you don't see the connection to urban areas. The metabolism of cities demands resources from those areas.

    With half the population now living in cities and much more expected, that is something we should all be thinking about. Much of the urban development that will exist in 100 years hasn't happened yet, so there is great opportunity, especially in fields like urban ecology. If we can figure out characteristics or components of cities that not only improve our daily quality of life but also improve the maintenance of these more natural areas, then I think we'll be better off.

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    Why “Resource Sufficiency Evaluation” is Crucial: Sustainable World Initiatives

    > Sustainable Development is Not the Same as Sustainability:

    Sustainability, from a natural resource perspective, means that we don’t take things from nature faster than nature can replace them. For an ecosystem like a forest, it means that we don’t harvest trees faster than the forest can regrow them. Otherwise we will eventually destroy the forest. For an underground aquifer system, it means that we don’t pump water out faster than it is naturally replenished. Making development more efficient, and thus more sustainable, is important, but merely making economic activity more sustainable does not guarantee that we are living within nature’s means.

    > We’re Already Consuming Resources at an Unsustainable Rate:

    With 7 billion people on the planet and rising levels of affluence, we are already exceeding nature’s limits. Every two years, the Global Footprint Network and the World Wildlife Fund publish a “Living Planet” report that looks at humanity’s ecological footprint. The latest report, issued in 2010, indicates that humankind is already overusing the renewable resource capacity of Earth’s biosphere by 50%. Climate change, peak oil, water scarcity, biodiversity loss, and recurring food crises are all signs that humanity is overusing global resources. Leading scientists warn that we are in biological and general resource overshoot.

    > We’re Already in Danger of Breaking Planetary Boundaries:

    Thirty leading scientists assembled by the Stockholm Resilience Centre have identified nine “planetary boundaries,” which, if crossed, could cause irreparable harm to the planet and the prospects for future human well-being. According to these scientists, we have already exceeded three of these important boundaries: climate change, nitrogen loadings, and the rate of biodiversity loss. The other six boundaries—ocean acidification, stratospheric ozone, aerosol loadings, freshwater use, land use changes, and chemical pollution—to varying degrees are also approaching a scale “where abrupt global environmental change can no longer be excluded.”

    > The Challenge is Getting Larger, Not Smaller:

    The demands that we are placing upon the planet are growing exponentially. According to U.N. projections, world population—currently 7 billion—is likely to grow to 9 billion by 2042 and to over 10 billion by 2085. At the same time, the world’s economic output continues to rise at 3-4 percent a year, putting enormous pressures on a fragile ecology and a dwindling resource base.

    > “Greening” the Economy is Necessary, but Not Sufficient:

    With the world economy on track to quadruple in size over the next half century, any gains we make in producing renewable energy or in conserving resources will not, in all likelihood, be enough to achieve a sustainable world. Indeed, historical data show that technological advances can accelerate the rate at which natural resources are consumed and the environment is impacted. Green technologies may help to de-link resource extraction from economic growth, but—by themselves—they will not ensure progress toward sustainability.

    > Resource Exploitation has Propelled Human Progress:

    In the past 100 years we have made major strides in improving the human condition. Average life spans have more than doubled. Food production has more than quadrupled. Living standards in many countries have increased by a factor of at least ten. Our progress has been propelled by the extraction of fossil fuels and the exploitation of natural resources, but it has taken a terrible toll on the environment, and our resource base is steadily shrinking.

    > Our Very Future Depends on Resource Sufficiency:

    We cannot maintain the progress we have made in eliminating poverty and eradicating hunger, unless we maintain an adequate resource base. Continued advances in human welfare will require sufficient land, water, minerals, and metals. We will also need healthy ecosystems capable of sustaining a wide range of biological diversity, including human life.

    > Sustainability Requires Resource Sufficiency Evaluation:

    We will never know if we have enough resources to maintain human development unless we actually evaluate our resource demands and compare them to what is available. No one would think of driving a car or flying a plane without a fuel gauge. By the same token, we cannot plan for our future without knowing whether we have enough resources to meet our projected needs. Every nation, whether its economy is developed or developing, should undertake a resource sufficiency evaluation, and the international community should provide technical support. At the same time, world leaders must undertake an international resource sufficiency evaluation to gauge global progress towards a sustainable world.

    > Methodologies Already Exist for Doing Resource Sufficiency Evaluations:

    Scientifically-based accounting methodologies, such as the ecological footprint, are already available to conduct resource sufficiency evaluations. These methodologies, and the biophysical ‘balance sheets’ that are generated, will give policymakers and the public a clearer understanding of sustainability and what is needed to achieve it. Our future depends on it. Resource Sufficiency Evaluation is our Road Map to a Sustainable Future.

    Resource Sufficiency Evaluation is our Road Map to a Sustainable Future. :tup:

    http://www.populationinstitute.org/external/files/Fact_Sheets/SWI_2_Pager.pdf

    Sustainable World Initiative

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    India's Young Population Higher than China, an Advantage???????

    Japanese Growing Old Age Population and its Effects on the Society, China on the same path-

    once we discussed, Indian young age population is very high because of high population growth, a good sign. while China soon going to suffer problems due to old aged people, which will be similar to how Japan facing this issue at present. and here i remembered a discussing with my Russians friends once, the country which has been suffering reduction in population,-"what will the Indians do when these young age people will get older after 30-40 years? will you have twice population than today to support them?"-:tsk:
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    and then we discussed, "even if a Japanese or Chinese family has one kid, he/she is well educated, well established and can support his/her parents. and if on average 5 to 8 kids taking birth in common families of Bangladesh, over 85% population of Bangladesh suffering from Malnutrition, and 90% of them "generally" keep favoring Islamic fanaticism on different platform, the purpose of their sperms being used, which can't be thrown to Bay of Bengal itself.........

    and the people on the world platform ask very first question, "oil prices have risen from $30/barrel in 2003 to $100+/barrel to date because of high demands from high population countries, but why would we pay its high price while sitting in Australia, for example, which is twice bigger to India by size and has population at around 23million, same as the total number of kids taking birth in India every year?"
    and its very true about other resources like Iron ore, natural gas, coal etc whose prices are now very high for whole world, just because of high demands from high population countries.......

    again here, why would the world gets finally 'finished' one day due to higher Green House Emission by high population countries, just because we can't put a nail over these highly populated countries???? why would the people in other countries pay high price for reduced carbon emission, just because others may keep increasing it due to high population growth, as this is what they can do, as no one can stop them, no matter what?....

    (for example, population of India was 341 million in 1947, at the time of freedom, while its well closed to 1.3billion. Population of Pakistan was 34million while its well closed to 200million at present, while population of Bangladesh was around 36million in 1947 and its well over 170million to date....... at the same time minorities are almost finished in Pakistan, with news of Shia-Sunni-Ahmadi Sectarian Wars within Muslims itself there. on the other side, population of Hindus in India reduced from 88% in 1947 to below 80% to date, while that of Muslims in India rose from 8% to 16%+ of total population of India during this period. while the condition of Buddhist and Hindu minorities in Bangladesh is being discussed in the thread as below-):facepalm:
    Illegal immigration from Bangladesh has turned Assam explosive | Indian Defence Forum

    and also, how long exactly the Indian Middle Class itself may bear Subsidy burden of Indian poor, and whether they will remain capable enough in future too? 50%+ population of India, 650million, is based in Agriculture only, contributing hardly 16% in Indian GDP, while the same output can be well achieved by less than 100million people? even half of the 600million people living in Indian cities just struggle to have a decent life......

    we do need to understand the meaning of "Population Based on Resource Sufficiency Evaluation", either today or tomorrow :thumb:
     
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    We Must Avoid a Breaking Point on Population Increase

    there is a Breaking Point, and soon we may arrive there. there are few basic points as below in this regard:- :tup:

    1st; we want Population to be based on the "resources sufficiency evaluation" within a certain country. as higher consumption of natural resources in high population density countries, and then its higher prices is applied to the whole world. whether high consumption of metal, oil/gas, coal, including high demand of food from China, as we saw recently, its all means for its higher prices for the people of whole world. hence, you just can't increase population as a domestic issue :nono:

    2nd; high energy consumption in the high population density countries, hence higher green house emission this way, which again affects the climate of whole world.
    for example, if the small population but big land area countries like Australia adopt green house reduction measures, then it has a limited meaning if high population density countries emitting more Carbon, hence its effects on the climate of the whole world, hence affecting all the countries of world this way.

    3rd; there is a "breaking point", Indian Middle Class may arrive while feeding people below poverty line by hefty subsidy etc., who pay taxes to run the government, pay for other expenses and building infrastructure of this country, and its not because high population would then destroy the whole country ....
    similarly, its not the Middle Class of rest of the world who pay taxes to feed people below poverty line in India, hence they are also responsible to help India stop illegal entry of very poor illiterates coming from Bangladesh, where people just fcuk and throw their shiits to the Indian borders, to grow on the money of Indian Middle class :tsk:
    while consequences of import of Islamic Fanatic people from Bangladesh has its own effects on India, the nation, as whole

    4th; we also want "Population Tax" on every second child taking birth in a family, which must be same for the people of whole world. the Population Tax to be denoted to the World Bank/Climate Change organizations to reduce its effect on the Climate as whole. i mean, you first need to pay for, before taking birth, and higher Tax on the 3rd and 4th Child, to first have a "capability check" of a family, whether they may bear expanses of a kid or not...

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    Muslim population ‘rising 10 times faster than rest of society’ | The Times

    Muhammad the most common baby name in London - The Times of India

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    Increasing Muslim Population to Fulfill Religious Goals in World

    hmmmmm, its widely believed that that the countries like Pakistan+Bangladesh are increasing population to fulfill their Islamic Fanaticism interests only.

    Population of Pakistan was 34mil in 1947 while that of Bangladesh was around 36mil at the time of freedom in 1947, while now its over 180million+ in Pakistan and over 160million+ in Bangladesh. and all the population increase in these countries is mainly intended to export Islamic Jihad in other countries......

    and here we always give example of India, where population of Hindus reduced from 88% in 1947 to less than 80% at present, while that of Muslims increased from 8% to 16%+ to total India's population since 1947 to date.......while about Pakistan, minorities are almost gone, Shia-Sunni-Ahmadies problem there we find now. while state of minorities in Bangladesh is also being discussed in the thread as below :facepalm:

    Illegal immigration from Bangladesh has turned Assam explosive | Indian Defence Forum

    and when we want to discuss "One Child Policy" of China, then it tells us the story of that country which wants to build itself, but doesn't want others to get problem from Chinese people. "Having only as much population as it may be fed by the limited resources, the China has." the topic of this thread. :tup:

    while that of Muslim population is mainly meant to export Islamic fanaticism to other countries, the reason even if population of Bangladesh is more than the largest country of world, Russia, Bangladesh even import a third of the food for its population also, they don't want to stop population growth, for the purpose to achieve their religious goals. even if Bangladesh falls among the Least Developed Countries, having enough support from rest of the world too this way....

    and if you want to build your own country, you may do anything within, good or bad, but if you are increasing Muslim population just to create problems for the non-Islamic states of world, we have a reason to ask, "WHY?"

    what exactly these highly populated Muslim countries are intended in this world, we do have a reason to get to know :tup:

    for example, population of Australia is less than 25million, while its a quite big country with hefty resources. and here, they do have a reason to ask, what others are doing in this world? would Christian states also increase Christian population to have competition with others, or, others would learn something in this regard? :what:

    => population update:

    The World Factbook
     
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    rocky, how would you look on this news on the British national party's website as below?
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    Who Has Impoverished Britain?

    further to the above post#98, Its interesting to see that out of total GBP 2,352 remittances outflow from UK, half of it, around GBP 1.16 goes to only 2 countries, Pakistan+Bangladesh. (GBP 533 million+GBP 627 million)

    while Bangladesh and Pakistan occupy the seventh and eleventh positions respectively in terms of the global inflow of remittances, while UK is the 14th place remittance receiving country of world :rofl:
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    Migrant Remittances to and from the UK | The Migration Observatory
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    Canada put Bangladeshi migrants with Pakistanis, like how it was till 1972, and this is their data's as below:
     
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    rev100, US-UK on crossroad, on 2 ways, on this ongoing crisis:-


    today i discussed 2 ways for US-UK from here:-

    1st way:

    the good character Commonwealth recruitment on the government positions of India are deported back, and the guilty behind serious offences were hanged in the number 10s. means, the guilty were punished, the related actions were taken.

    the Bangladeshi and other foreign nationals- the souls occupying bodies of Indian and other civilians of world, were transferred back to kids of their country of origin.
    and its only for those who were not found guilty of murdering a certain person to occupy his-her citizenship, wealth, intentionally-purposefully. for the guilty, just take out souls from a occupied bodies, thats it.....
    (the causality might be in big number, and i would propose , $2.0billion for those 1.0million Bangladeshi kids, hence around $2,000 per kid a year for their upbringing for the next 20 years from US's government pocket, which would be enough amount for expanses of a kid in hostel of the country like India-Vietnam-Bangladesh-Philippine etc, i think...)

    i dont say murdering a a kid below age 4.0years is right, but we may consider them as birds having lived their lives by age 4.0years, similar to life of a bird. and, these people will then grow on their own identity-certificates-signature, with interests in their own areas in schools, will become doctors-engineers-lawyers as per their interest of studies by the next 20 years time... as, how will you use certificates-identity of the person whose body you occupied? you can occupy a body, but not the knowledge-experience-certificates-signature, you dont even have 'memory' of the paper works, he-she did in their life....


    (the idea of occupying a kid's body is taken from the usual dreams im given, and its fundamental concept is, "no one wants to die, and the old aged people want a body to survive. neither the world has enough resources to have infinite number of people."

    also, its more a government's practice of Australia-UK, like how im told that my mother got body of a kid aged below 4.0years, also on 6th April 2015, when the person, katrina kaif, got a little girl's body.)

    (you can't use identity of the person, whose body you occupied, Father Name, Mother Name, Date of Birth etc, neither the name is your, and then left with only an occupied body, which isn't recovered yet, within few days or after a trail.

    you can't occupy other's citizenship, by occupying his-her body only, as you can't prove your identity.)

    take proper actions against those terrorists, who were using these technologies, hence, were behind murdering civilians of world by occupying their bodies.

    this way, which is considered "positive" steps by me, people will be shocked but they would come out of depression after some time, will then back to usual life, finally. as, "the problem is solved", leaving a 'Natural Disaster' behind, say.....

    (US-UK can do anything in world, quake-flood-Tsunami etc, handling bodies of people of world too, why would you "promote-support" these serious offences??? would destroying world's climate, as whole, be accepted?)
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    2nd way: the Commonwealth recruitment of Bangladeshi origin in particular, India had bitter partition in 1946-47, will maintain their positions in front of common civilians. hence, the offence to occupy Indian government positions from back door under False IDs, will then be successful, while continue serving their handlers based in overseas. as, they all work as spies, in fact...

    the occupied bodies will walk in front of common civilians, with occupying wealth of the certain family as whole, by murdering them all. and others around that family's house will watch it....

    people will first be shocked, how the whole families are being murdered to occupy citizenship of India and wealth of that family too. and the murders with the occupied bodies, the foreign nationals, are then rewarded for this offence too. who were successful in these attempts......
    (it will then give a message to common people as whole, "Kill these occupied bodies and get the wealth for you yourself, which these murderers have occupied by murdering that certain person-whole family....)

    have you ever heard, "murdering someone to occupy his-her wealth, citizenship was ever successful? very few,... and can you have a society based on murdering others to occupy other's wealth? it would suddenly break down social structure of a country-society as whole, if its ever justified.


    and the whole world will come with some form of response, as, this is the world wide problem now, and the offenders are using those technologies, which were owned by US-UK only for the last 25years+...
    while its also understood, US keep many mother and grand mother technologies of these techs, but denying to use them against these serious offences.....

    "you will not stop the murders, as you then 'promote' this crimes this way."

    the people will then be more worried for the further murders of their family members, will then be united as the world's society as whole for this crimes of murdering civilians of world.....

    and in my term, this is the "negative way", as, "the problem has now gone further. with further violence-serious internal conflicts-internal wars between occupied bodies against the locals of a certain country, this way."

    im waiting to follow guidelines of government agencies of Australia+US, under a proper security from now onward. would stay here for few days and then move to Italy first, and then would go on world tour, with thanking those politicians of US+UK+Aus who kept me safe enough to date.
    its now the world's problem, which will go further from here, or, will stop here after serious causalities-disasters. and US-UK are responsible to be 'honest', as you know what's ongoing and fully capable to capture these terrorists, who are active in murdering world's civilians....
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    Indian Tax Payers pay hefty subsidy for people below poverty line, for infrastructure development of India Rs 51.46 lakh cr to be allocated for infrastructure during 12th Plan - NDTVProfit.com

    no country of world has right to destroy this country. its not your money in Indian infrastructure, nor you share subsidy burden of Indians

    such a high population country, Bangladesh, member of Least developed countries, take them to US-UK-Australia Least developed country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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