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Possible fallout of rejection of US fighters for MRCA

Discussion in 'Modern Warfare' started by Bad Wolf, Apr 29, 2011.

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  1. Bad Wolf

    Bad Wolf Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    With the MRCA competition being narrowed down to Rafale and EF and the two US fighters being rejected, what are the potential political and military fallout that we can expect? What kind of arm twisting or even a "punishment" even can we expect from washington though there should be no reason as by the looks of it, the competition has been fair and square and admitted as much by the out going US ambassador.
     
  2. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    IAF testing and evaluation is much more ardous than many other countries can do. It means a general hit on the US aircraft. Rejection of commercial bid is nothing, the present rejection is of technical bid.
     
  3. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    What one could expect is that they bow out gracefully, having admitted beforehand that the selection process was fair and transparent, even if they believe (for certain good reasons) that their birds on offer were superior to the selected Eurocanards.

    What one would expect is the covert arm twisting, in exerting pressure on the Indian defence industry through foreign channels to turn to the US for defence trades, to continue. Even through the MRCA evaluation process they didn't quite hold off, managing to keep the Elta EL/M-2052 out of the ADA's hands, and keeping the Dhruv from winning the Ecuadorian heli contract.

    What one should expect is not to let this effect the Indo-US relationship in any way. They've got no grounds to be unhappy, seeing as on both the military and civilian front, trade and collaboration between the two nations has done nothing but move forward. Look at the military products ordered from them over the past few years: Boeing P-8I "Poseidon", Boeing C-17, Lockheed-Martin C130J, GE F-404 & F-414, FGM-148 Javelin (ToT included), Ex-USS Trenton (now INS Jalashwa), invitation to Raytheon to upgrade the army's T-72s, and the list goes on. All in all about $20 billion.
    Not to mention civillian cooperation over the nuclear deal.

    Guess we'll start seeing the fallout of this deal, if any, in the next few years.
     
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  4. Varad

    Varad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Well the US should not be affected by the decision. They should value their relations with India regarding all purposes. A relationship is not just about buying and selling.
     
  5. rcscwc

    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    They would pretend to bow out gracefully. But a 10 billion deal is big even for USA. Plus, the stigma of rejection of technical specifications is not easy to swallow. Outfall can be serious in other hi tech deals. If they cannot offer a fighter to specifications demanded and purportedly given by them, how good will be their nuke power plants? They are either unable or unwilling to deliver.
     
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  6. Coltsfan

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    This is nothing but a minor speed bump in the path of growing US-India strategic cooperation.

    Days of arm-twisting or punishment are over, both US and India are very much cognizant of that fact.
     
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    rcscwc Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    All things equal, USA is in general very very unreliable strategic partner, as far as India is concerned.
     
  8. Coltsfan

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    No issue can decide Indo-US relation:Roemer on IAF deal - PTI -

    After both its fighters failed to make it to India's multi-billion dollar deal, the US on Friday said even though it is deeply disappointed, no single issue can decide the Indo-US relation.

    "We respect Indian procurement process but we are deeply disappointed. But I am forever an optimist and positive. No single issue can decide the Indo-US relation. Our partnership is resilient and global in nature. It will make us inextricable in coming decades," US Ambassador to India Timothy J Roemer said here.
    He was addressing a gathering of the US Chamber of Commerce to India.

    His statement comes a day after India announced the rejection of its two aircraft-- Boeing's F-18 and Lockheed Martin's F-16, from multi billion dollar 126 Medium-Multi Role Combat Aircraft (M-MRCA) deal, in which European Eurofighter and French Rafale have been shortlisted for final selection.

    The US Ambassador has resigned a day after India informed America about its decision to reject American fighters.

    Addressing the gathering Roemer said, "The US-India partnership is on a trajectory that knows no limits. We are entering a golden age in our relations that will result in us creating economic opportunities for our citizens and ensuring safe and secure communities throughout the world."
    He further talked about the Indo-US partnership in areas of health, education, trade, energy and agriculture.

    Calling his two year-long stint in India as an "extraordinarily successful and rewarding" period, Roemer said, "Our two countries are collaborating and partnering in almost every field of human endeavor." .
     
  9. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    US should have guessed that their conditions were not acceptable for everyone.
     
  10. Spartacus+

    Spartacus+ Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    US ambassador to India resigns after this you can imagine their pain the punishment will come from defense and commission lobby as you know US president is puppet and controlled by powerful defense lobbies, contractors and ugly Zionists

    Americans will ignore you for while they won't listen to your BS about Pakistan, they won't support you in Afghanistan.
    Secondly contractors and mercenary armies can do terrorism in India remember the biggest beneficiary of 26/11 was USA they got nearly 12 Billion USD orders before 26/11 it was zero.

    In Prison Break contractor company kill Indian ambassador and put blame on Chinese
    Result
    Low IQ Indians (without investigating the matter) accepted to buy company product to teach Chinese a lesson.:laugh:
     
  11. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    You should try your luck in writing some fiction novels, really. You're good at it. :dirol:

    We've already filled their mouth with enough dollars, so they won't worry about MMRCA. :coffee:
     
  12. Coltsfan

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    Hello Mr. High IQ!!

    US ambassador has resigned of his own volition, his commitment was only of 2 years when he took the job in 2009.

    You make it sound as if US has broken off diplomatic relations with India because of one deal:wacko:
     
  13. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    This was expected from High IQ Maradrsa educated person from the land of pure. Please understand that we are not a BIKARI nation who accepts BHEEK from America. Dont compare India's position with that of Pakistan. :cheers:

    Just today I heard the news that NATO and Afgan Soldiers attacked PAK POST IN PAKISTAN :woot: :woot:

    Again please understand that we are INDEPENDENT nation and our existence doesnt depend on any third country. :cheers:

    Dude its not our fault that your entire defence budget with US aids and Chinese soft loans is not even close to $12bn. :cheers:

    Pata nahi madarse me kya padhate hai. Agli baar bolega ki mars me pehle baar jinaah me kadam rakha tha baad me evil hindoos ne uspe kabja kar liya :lol: :lol:

    Yes we are LOW IQ people. Thank God we dont have any HIGH IQ person like you. Pata nahi desh ka kya hota.

    Sometimes I wonder ki itna High IQ hone k baad be pakistan se sirf terrorist he kyu aate hai...doctors ya engineers kyu nahi?? :tup:
     
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  14. MAFIAN GOD

    MAFIAN GOD Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I don't understand why do we even care about what USA will do after????
    USA was a LOSER in the competition and they must accept it.
    Before few years the defence deals with USA were almost NIL.
    We have enough money to buy anything from any corner of the world.
    USA need India and we don't need USA.Our true ally is Russia.
     
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  15. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Hey, buddy.
    Mind launching your own rockets into space, and could you also win some Nobel prizes in Science, and then you can comment on our IQ.
     
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