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President Obama's meets with Dalai Lama; Chinese complain

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  1. Galaxy

    Galaxy Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    WASHINGTON: President Barack Obama held a White House meeting Saturday with the Dalai Lama, a fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate, hours after China called on the US to rescind an invitation that could sour relations with Beijing.

    The Tibetan spiritual leader has been in Washington for an 11-day Buddhist ritual. Thousands of expatriate Tibetans joined a 76th birthday celebration Wednesday for the Dalai Lama, who's just relinquished leadership of Tibet's government-in-exile.

    The White House said the 45-minute private session in the Map Room showed Obama's support for preserving Tibet's culture and protecting human rights, as well as reaffirming his belief that the Chinese government should engage with representatives of the Dalai Lama to resolve their differences.

    A Chinese crackdown led the Dalai Lama to flee into exile in India in 1959. China says he's welcome to return if he drops his separatist activities, accepts Tibet as an inalienable part of China and recognizes Taiwan as a province of China.

    Hours before the Dalai Lama's arrival, the Chinese foreign ministry urged the White House to cancel the visit.

    "We firmly oppose any foreign official to meet with the Dalai Lama in any form," foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said in a statement posted on the ministry's website.

    "We request the US side to honor its serious commitment that recognizes Tibet as part of China and opposes Tibet independence," Hong said.

    The White House kept the meeting low-key, closing it from the news media. It chose the Map Room for the visit instead of the Oval Office, which is reserved for visiting heads of state.

    The visit comes less than 10 days before US secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton is expected to visit the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen. Vice President Joseph Biden is also scheduled to visit China this summer, followed by a trip to Washington by his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.

    Obama had been criticized by pro-Tibetan activists for putting off an invitation during the Dalai Lama's stay in the capital. White House officials said the president's schedule had been occupied with debt-limit negotiations with congressional leaders.

    Obama last met the Dalai Lama in February 2010.



    President Obama's meets with Dalai Lama; Chinese complain - The Times of India
     
  2. satz

    satz Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Waiting to see the outcome of this meeting and china's reaction. poor Dragon yelling all the side!!!! :bounce-grn:
     
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    Capt.Popeye Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    All these Chinese "fulminations" are related to the Chinese concept of "Face". This concept lies at the basis of Chinese character. The Americans know that too, hence these moves on their part.
     
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    satz Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Hi Capt popeye, Could you explain the same post with the Lay man translation. :girl_wink:
     
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    "Lose face" in English is a translation of the Chinese phrase 'tiu lien'. Which can be expressed in English as 'to suffer public disgrace', i.e. to be unable to show one's face in public. This sociological concept is very acutely important to both Chinese individuals and Organisations.

    This "Face" is to do with "Reputation" or "Image". Specifically Official Image. Unquestioning obedience to the Monarch, Establishment or even the Head of the Family is an important ingredient of that "Face" or Image. That is the way things have been for centuries in China. Post revolution Communist China still holds that in great importance. In that respect, both Imperial China and China of the CCP are identical. Anything that seems even remotely defiant and rebellious will cause the Govt. (Establishment) to lose "Face", or its image to be seriously degraded in front of its populace.

    Every time any person of importance or Govt. anywhere in the world gives even the semblance of any respect/importance to the Dalai Lama, it is considered to be a direct affront to the Image of the Govt. it is considered to be "Loss of Face". And that is very hard to stomach by a Govt. (or a political system) that works so hard to give an impression that it is in full and unquestioned control of the country. China is extremely sensitive to all this. And that gets evidenced frequently as seen in the case of the Nobel Prize winner Liu Xiaobo, Falun Gong, the Tienamen standoff and so many numerous times.
     
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    JanjaWeed Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    China desperately wants to portray Dalai Lama as a bad man. When more & more world leaders start courting his holiness.. china becomes vulnarable & the fear is Dalai Lama's stand against chinese occupation of tibet only gains further legitimacy.
    Also it's a fact... the Chinese fear that he will gain a lot of popular support. After all, there are a lot of his followers around the world!!
     
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    lol Do chineese really think that americans they take take thier words seriously lol
     
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