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Putin calls internet a 'CIA project' renewing fears of web breakup

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  1. Averageamerican

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    Russian president's remark fans idea that has gained ground in Germany, Brazil and elsewhere after Edward Snowden's revelations

    Vladimir Putin at media forum in St Petersburg. The Russian president has long hinted that he wants a Russian-run alternative to the internet. Photograph: Mikhail Klimentiev/Ria Novosti/EPA
    Vladimir Putin gave his clearest signal yet that he aims to break up the global nature of the internet when he branded the network a "CIA project" on Thursday.
    The Russian president told a media conference in St Petersburg that America's overseas espionage agency had originally set up the internet and was continuing to develop it.
    Putin has long hinted that he wants a Russian-run alternative. The idea of breaking up the internet has gained ground in Germany, Brazil and elsewhere round the world in the light of the revelations by whistleblower Edward Snowden about the extent to which the US National Security Agency has infiltrated Facebook, Skype and other social media.
    Snowden's critics say that an unintended consequences of his revelations has been to undermine the global nature of the web as well as playing into the hands of dictators. His supporters counter that it is the NSA rather than Snowden that has damaged trust in the service.
    During a recent national televised question and answer session, Putin batted away a question from Snowden – who won temporary asylum in Russia after having his US passport revoked – about whether Russia also intercepted and stored communications harvested from the internet, as the US did. "I hope we don't do that," he said to applause from the studio audience. "We don't have as much money as they do in the US."
    Putin acknowledged that there was surveillance of criminals and potential terrorists but denied there was mass surveillance of citizens.
    A purely Russian-run system could make it easier for the Russian intelligence services to monitor and control traffic. The Kremlin already has powerful tools in place for this, but nonetheless the internet offers a platform for Russian opposition groups denied a voice on the country's television and radio. At the same media conference, Putin also referred directly to the most popular search engine in Russia, Yandex – a reference that caused its shares to plummet.
    Putin's St Petersburg comments could herald the most serious challenge yet to the world wide web, which was founded by the British computer scientist Sir Tim Berners-Lee.
    Putin claimed the "CIA project" was still developing and that Russia needed to be protected from it. The nation had a duty to resist that influence and fight for its interests online, he said.
    His remarks come in the wake of a law passed by the Russian parliament this week requiring foreign social media websites to keep their servers in Russia. The law also requires them to save all information about their users for at least six months.
    Business executives close to Putin now control Russia's leading social network, VKontakte.
    Putin, in referring to Yandex, criticised the company for its registration in the Netherlands, "not only for tax reasons but for other considerations too". He was responding to a questioner who complained that Yandex was storing information on servers abroad, potentially compromising Russian security.
    Snowden has previously faced criticism from within America for accepting asylum in Russia but failing to speak out against the authoritarian nature of the regime. After addressing Putin last week, he was accused of putting a softball question to him.
     
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    Internet is a project of DARPA.

    Every person with some strategical knowledge knows that USA created the net for spying purposes. Putin only blames CIA because ordinary people knows CIA. But they dont know DARPA.
     
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    Not really: Rather, the ARPANET came out of our frustration that there were only a limited number of large, powerful research computers in the country, and that many research investigators, who should have access to them, were geographically separated from them.[13]
     
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    Inrersting thought if it happens it will be worst attack on us econony and its super power status. I would love to build and indian internet too
     
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    That does not explane why ARPANET became a fully exploited civil Internet. What was the purpose to connect the average american to a internet? 99% of your population is only gaming, watching porn or joining social media sites.

    Arpanet became Internet and the only purpose of Internet is spying the population. Yes, spying them. :agree:

    Try better next time.
     
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    I wonder how much freedom Indians will give up if India has it own internet.

    India Descends Into Extreme Internet Censorship
    from the censorship-in-effect dept
    A year and a half ago, we noted some new laws and plans for laws in India that would likely lead to widespread censorship of the internet in that country, and a commenter on that post just alerted us to the news that some of these ridiculous new laws have gone into effect. They're incredibly vague, and get the liability question backwards, demanding that ISPs proactively police and remove content that is "objectionable," "disparaging," "harassing," "blasphemous" and "hateful." Talk about vague. Suddenly, service providers have incentive to over aggressively block all sorts of stuff, just to avoid liability. The law also requires sites to remove content within 36 hours if law enforcement says it's objectionable -- without even notifying whoever put that content up. Think how easy this is to abuse by anyone in government who just doesn't like some type of content. Such a law is clearly a censorship law.
     
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    All if needed to save the nation so don't wonder
     
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    at least,India doesn't have ndaa law like USA which enables indefinite detention,torture and murder without warrant.In recent history only north korea,iraq have had such law.
     
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    atleast we cannot find any bull shit propaganda from some countries.
     
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    When you have censorship you don't know what you have.
     
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    You funny to think USA has no censorship.

    Still believing democrasy fairytales with you two party dictatorship. LMAO
     
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    USA has NDAA.
     
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    He is an agent. ever noticed how he's online all the time?? He was a member even when this forum was boring and had no members/topics. Hell, even this website might be a covert program of the USA to collect information.
     
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    Nah i dont think he is an agent. Agents have better things to do than crawling in internet. He is a retired average american guy. I notice that from his writings. He is the typical ignorant american who is interested in US hegemony.

    Propably he waves flags proudly at 4th july. Wiping away his tears of emotion for the brave american soldiers.

    ROFLMAO
     
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