Rafale deal signed

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    Ok folks ET Now had an interview with Eric Trappier.. Here are the tweets and what i headr in interview


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    Now what i heard in interview
    • Reporter said 15 squad needed, is this 2 order as a way of testing the water
    • Trappier said
      • Its a batch of 36
      • with this we will install an industry base
      • with Installed industry, build the capability
      • with that get more opportunities
      • Translated into orders
    • Reporter asked about Local Partnership
    • Trappier said
      • Coming soon out in public domain
      • Prefer developing a private company partnership
      • Focussed on investments and developing for a long term
      • not only for defence but for civilian market as well
      • Capable of meeting exports market via this.
    • Reporter Hinting on MII
    • Trappier said
      • Yes on radar
      • majority in India as it gives capability and advantages to India
    • Reporters asked for challenges for MII
    • Trappier said
      • A need to have a long term view as investments are in tools and hum,an capital for developing the skillsets.
      • Stabilise the ecosystem producing such aircrafts over the long term
      • 50% defence and 50% civilian side focus approiach
      • Secondary market for Aeronautics, engg, avionics, sub systems, etc
    • Reporter asked for Joint Production of Spare/weapon/etc
    • Trappier said
      • Hardware, Software ad services to support Indian aircrafts will be localised
      • Indian authorities will reveal more details
    • Reporter asked for offset details
    • Trappier said
      • Indian authorities to answer that as cant disclose due to signing NDA with India
    • Reporter on Lifetime support
    • Trappier said Yes
    • Reporter asked for customizations
    • Trappier said IAF or MOD to comment on this
    • Reporter asked for Line of credit
    • Trappier said Gov to Gov talks . cant comment
    • Reporter asked about Mirage phasing
    • Trappier said at an appropriate time yes but as of now HAl is doinga good job upgrading them.
    • Reporter asked for Nuclear capability
    • Trappier said
      • French aircrafts are designed and capable
      • But its outside his domain to comment
    • Reporter talked about long Indian time
    • Trappier said
      • DA is very patient
      • DA is working very hard for last 60 years with India and they understand how India works for a long term commitment
     
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    French know the true meaning of IST-Indian stretchable Time. You need lots of Patience to work with India. we Indians have trusted our politicians for last 70 yrs and we are still patiently waiting for them to do some good thing for the nation.
     
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    What do you make out of this
    • Reporter said 15 squad needed, is this 2 order as a way of testing the water
    • Trappier said
      • Its a batch of 36
      • with this we will install an industry base
      • with Installed industry, build the capability
      • with that get more opportunities
      • Translated into orders
    • Reporter asked about Local Partnership
    • Trappier said
      • Coming soon out in public domain
      • Prefer developing a private company partnership
      • Focussed on investments and developing for a long term
      • not only for defence but for civilian market as well
      • Capable of meeting exports market via this.
    In a way, reporter on the face asked for a 300 jet order stuff.. which is pretty daring and blunt.. but i have to admit.. Trappier with his smile could not hide the prospects but played carefully with words..
     
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    now can we close the MMRCA thread , that thread is so unlucky :/
     
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    So no 50% options clause
     
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    Tweet no 14 is also doubtful because loitering time depends upon range considered
     
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    How many hours of warranty comes as standard
     
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    Hiw many scalp.and meteor per rafale as part of deal ?

    If 2-2 per rafale then insufficient

    Means another weapons contract and

    Kept low to lower deal price
     
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    There is such option to be negotiated separately as part of MII. Pls read carefully, the component export will help us earn 3b.
     
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    Normally it is one year for time based components and one year average utilizalation for hour based components.
     
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    Rafale gets it only in A2A mode due to D/Ts as SU-30MKI does not have provisions for D/Ts.
     
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    The number is reduced from what UPA wanted as a large number of Russian/Indian weapons will be integrated on Rafale for India. One of the biggest minuses is-no bribes for mother of AAP, the Italian waitress. You can beat your chest like a Widow/Raand now for this huge loss in election funding from khangrass.
     
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    13. Very Important: There is NO CLAUSE for additional aircraft as part of this deal. 36 jets is final unless fresh negotiations happen.
     

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