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Rafale deal signed

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by PARIKRAMA, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    IAF agree with you, but Ajit Doval thinks that India need a strategic agreement with USA.
     
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    proud_indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    and he is right. Isn't he? considering the changing Geopolitical landscape around us.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    and I simply say : "YES SIR ! "
     
  4. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I can't answer, I'm not a geopolitian
     
  5. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Only if the F-16 is shortlisted.
     
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    WhyCry Reaper Love Developers -IT and R&D

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    Don’t worry, India is not joining NATO.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Hello Parikrama.
    Be crystal clear please. Does it mean a powerfull engine ? Does it mean the rumored 8.3 Tons M88 ?
     
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    Notsuperstitious 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    You did not address my point. It is obvious that new aircrafts will bring in far greater capabilities.

    The issue I am raising is how do 2 squadrons of LCA bring in the same capabilities as 2 squadrons of Rafale?
     
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    Dassault Considers Building Private Jets in India

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    Thomas Black
    October 10, 2017, 12:29 PM GMT+5:30



      • Move will provide Dassault a competitive edge, CEO says
      • Indian deal for Rafale fighter jets was trimmed in 2016
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    A Dassault Aviation SA Falcon 8X business jet
    Jasper Juinen/Bloomberg

    Dassault Aviation SA, the French maker of Rafale fighter jets, may build its business aircraft in India, in a boost to Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s push to encourage local manufacturing.
    Building the Falcon 2000 planes in India would cut costs while ensuring quality and execution that meets standards, Chief Executive Officer Eric Trappier said in an interview on the sidelines of the National Business Aviation Association’s annual conference in Las Vegas. The move will also give the company a competitive edge, he said, without elaborating.

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    Eric Trappier
    Photographer: Marlene Awaad/Bloomberg
    “We really want to do something which is a real industrial cooperation in India,” Trappier said. “We are starting a big partnership.”

    The Paris-based company wants to deepen its ties with the South Asian country after it bid for a defense contract worth $11 billion to supply 126 Rafale aircraft and eventually won an order for only 36 planes last year. India had initially agreed to buy all the 126 jets under a long-delayed deal, even mandating Dassault to build some of them locally.

    Should Dassault start manufacturing the Falcon 2000 locally, it would provide a fillip to Modi’s flagship “Make in India” program that aims to lure foreign companies and create Indian jobs, one of his key campaign platforms. Lagging behind China in manufacturing for decades, the $2.3 trillion economy is trying to narrow the gap with its giant neighbor, which successfully tested its first home-made commercial passenger jet this year.

    After Modi decided to opt for fewer Rafale jets from Dassault in 2016 -- all of them imports -- the main opposition Congress party criticized his move saying his call for “Make in India” sounded hollow.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...iness-jet-manufacturing-in-india-on-modi-push
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Instead of 2 squadrons of LCA and Rafale each, we need 4 squadrons of Rafale or equivalent.

    We need capability and numbers.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    He just said that for some mission (specially by peace time) it's better to have 2 sqd of Rafale + 2 sqd of Tejas than 3 sqd of Rafale.
    Quantity is also a quality.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    And that's most likely the Dassault offset part to the Rafale deal.
     
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    The offsets are already sealed for the first 36 Rafale.

    I think it's to prepare the furtur : a factory able to produce Rafale in MII and after, or during, some Falcon products.

    It's a win win solution : with lower labour rate of India, and Dassault manufacturing skill, it would be economicaly interesting to produce Falcon in India.
    And two years ago, more or less, Trappier, Dassault ceo, said that the Indian market needs dedicated business jet. Why not some specially designed and localy produced Falcon ?
     
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    I read this day in La Tribune Newspaper that the tax will rise to 300% !!!
     
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