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Rafale deal signed

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  1. CNL-PN-AA

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    http://www.leparisien.fr/economie/v...12-rafale-et-50-airbus-07-12-2017-7438512.php


    > Economy | GZ | December 07, 2017, 10:27 | UPDATE: December 07, 2017, 10:42 |
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    On the menu of Emmanuel Macron's visit to Qatar: the signing of contracts, the financing of terrorism and the crisis in the Middle East AFP / KARIM JAAFAR



    Emmanuel Macron is visiting Qatar in the midst of a crisis in the Middle East triggered by Donald Trump with the decision to transfer the United States Embassy to Jerusalem. Qatar has just signed for 12 Rafale and 50 Airbus A 321.
    In the aftermath of the decisions announced by Donald Trump - the US President has decided to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to this city causing an international wave of convictions - Emmanuel Macron comes to arrive in Qatar for a quick visit.

    On the menu of this visit: the crisis in the Gulf, the fight against terrorism and big contracts.

    As soon as he arrived, the Head of State accompanied by Jean-Yves Le Drian, the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Florence Parly, the Minister of the Armed Forces, began his visit by the US base of Al-Udeid, 30 km southwest of Doha, the largest in the Middle East and headquarters of Centcom, the US central command of anti-jihadist operations.

    While the Emirate of Qatar is isolated diplomatically, Emmanuel Macron must meet Sheikh Tamin bin Hamad al-Thani, the young Emir of Qatar to address the thorny issue of financing terrorism . The dialogue may be a little tense.

    In an interview with Point published in August, Emmanuel Macron had questioned Qatar and Aarabia Arabia. "I have established extremely frank relations with all the powers of the Gulf. In my dialogue with the Emiris, the Saudis and the Qataris, I address the issue of the financing of terrorism. Qatar and Saudi Arabia have financed groups that were not the same, but that actually contributed to terrorism, "he said.

    Emmanuel Macron plans to organize in early 2018 in Paris an international conference on the financing of terrorism to which he will invite all actors in the region.

    Qatar has been imposed diplomatic sanctions for several months by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates or Egypt, after being accused of supporting Islamic groups. If Qatar has multiplied agreements to circumvent this blockade with Russia, Iran or Turkey, Paris should reaffirm a position "median" of France by supporting a Kuwaiti mediation.

    Twelve additional Rafale
    Beyond these diplomatic aspects, Emmanuel Macron is also on hand to sign important contracts. Qatar has just handed over the Doha metro concession over twenty years to a French consortium composed by RATP and Keolis. A contract of over € 3 billion. The first phase of the Doha Metro, which has 31 stations and 86 km, should be operational by the end of 2019.

    In addition, Qatar Airways has just announced an order conversion of A320 with the purchase of 50 Airbus A321s and with an option on 30 more aircraft.

    In addition, Qatar has also finalized the sale of more than 490 VBCI-type armored vehicles to French Nexter. A contract estimated at € 2 billion.

    Above all, the emir of Qatar, who had come to Paris on September 15 to meet the French president, decided to buy twelve more Rafale and to take an option for another 36.

    Recently, Doha had asked Paris for an extension of the option to sell the twelve French fighter jets that was expiring. Eric Trappier, the CEO of Dassault Aviation would recently in Qatar carry a commercial offer for the sale of twelve Rafale following the contract of € 6.3 billion (armament included MBDA and Safran) signed in May 2015 by Doha for the purchase of 24 French fighter aircraft (six in tandem and 18 in single-seaters).
     
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  2. Picdelamirand-oil

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    Metro, Rafale, A321 ... 11.1 billion euros in contracts signed when Macron arrives in Qatar
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    Not so costly when alone!!!
     
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    92 € million each Rafale. As always said by the french members...
     
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    All have moved out
     
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    Maybe just for some time....
     
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    Where?
     
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    1/5 of a clockcycle on a modern CPU. That is impossible without knowing the signal comming in.
     
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    No need of CPU.
     
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    another forum.
     
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    Parrikar says Rafale deal gives India edge over Pakistan, slams Antony for delay

    Goa Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar today accused former Defence Minister A K Antony of creating a "logjam" over the Rafale fighter jet deal and asserted that the acquisition of the French aircraft has given India a superiority over Pakistan in terms of air power.

    Parrikar, who succeeded UPA's Antony as Defence Minister when NDA came to power in 2014, was speaking at the Goa Arts and Literature Festival here after launching a book 'Securing India The Modi Way', penned by Nitin Gokhale.

    Parrikar said a day before Prime Minister Narendra Modi signed the Rafale jet deal with the French government, he (Parrikar) had addressed a meeting of officials from the Air Force to work out a solution to the "logjam" created by the Congress leader.

    "Antony had put strange noting on the file dealing with Rafale purchase. He mentioned on the file 'start discussion, finalise price and after everything is finished please come back to me' with all the documentary evidence of how the Rafale company was the lowest (bidder).

    "Now the CVC (Central Vigilance Commission) guideline says you can't negotiate with anyone other than the lowest (bidder). The files were going in circles and circles," he said.

    Parrikar, who left the Union ministry to become Goa chief minister in March this year, said for two and a half years the file was "doing rounds in circle, we broke the circle by deciding that we will have to go for different approach".

    Referring to the Congress's allegation about the "high price" of Rafale jets, he said "a fighter aircraft is not only an aircraft, the aircraft is probably a smaller part of the total cost. The real cost comes in purchasing special equipment."

    The deal covered a particular kind of helmet worn by the pilot, Parrikar said. "... the target is locked by watching at it. It is virtually 360 degrees visibility. Here he (pilot) has to just watch opponent's target and press the button, the computer does the rest. That cost of development of helmet is included in the deal," he said.

    The former defence minister said that in 1999, the Indian Air Force succeeded in pushing out its Pakistani counterpart out of the Kargil conflict zone, because India had Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles with a range of 30 km on SU30 and MiG 29 aircrafts.

    "Pakistan had only about 20 km range ... due to which they remained away," he said.

    However, between 1999 and 2014, Pakistan acquired a capacity of 100 km range whereas India had upgraded its BVR up to 60 km on SU30, he said.

    "We were now in danger of being shot down by Pakistani fighters staying 100 km away and not being able to retaliate and Rafale deal took care of this with a missile with a range of 150 km fitted on aircraft," Parrikar said.

    "An aircraft may cost 90 million euros but other components will cost you 150 million euros because you have to make it fighting-fit," the former union minister said.

    "Unfortunately we deal with the purchases of fighters as if we are buying toor dal and mung dal" he said, claiming the Congress leaders "do not know anything" about Defence.

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    Which helmet is being talked about? DASH or TARGO?
     
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    Sigh... It was to give a frame of reference. CPU:s use a very high clock frequency compared to most electronics. Every proposed solution Ive seen involves FPGA, which generally runs on significantly lower clocks. It would litererarly not even get the signal in that timeframe.

    In the timeframe you suggest there will therefore be little sampling, no analyzing, no signal adaptation. Good luck with that...
     
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    For some that said Dassault never delivered more than 11 Rafale a year...
     

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