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    THE NEW RADAR FOR THE RAFALE MEUSE
    REALMECA, specializing in high precision machine tools and sources of integration, celebrates 50 years
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    At the heart of the Argonne in the Meuse, REALMECA is a nugget. Recognized in the smaller circles, for its high-precision machine tools with numerical controls from two to seven axes but also its research and development sector, which opened the market to the aerospace defense.

    Behind the white walls of buildings of the company founded by John Friess in 1962 and now run by his son Bertrand, security systems and limited access to rooms in succession. Homeland Security of the French state, keeps grain.

    On the sidelines of the supply of machine tools for watchmaking, jewelery, health and indirectly leaders in luxury (Jaeger-LeCoultre, LVMH and Hermes), REALMECA embarked on co-development and integration projects secret defense. "To control the whole process and to avoid the slightest defect and thus manage the business risk that could jeopardize our work, cutting with high precision parts of steel, aluminum or titanium, we into account a complete process and buy electronic components to provide a room ready to use our customer, "says Bruno Gailly, the deputy CEO of REALMECA.

    Thus by this approach, REALMECA has become an essential partner of Thales to provide complete systems for radar, cons-measures aircraft and homing missiles Exocet and Mica. "We have a special partnership," commented Jean Friess hosting the Defence Minister Gerard Longuet within its walls. He presented the great gift that REALMECA offered himself for 50 years with the complicity of Thales. After several years of research conducted with particular REALMECA, Thales has delivered its first new generation radar serial Dassault Aviation Rafale for the soon to be available to the Air Force. "We are in the production of this project for a year and is now on the plane. This is a great satisfaction, "says Bruno Gailly.

    A TOLERANCE OF LESS THAN FIVE MICRONS
    This radar is designed using AESA technology where the Active Phased Array replaces mechanical scanning. Only the Americans and the French master this technology. This is the end of the mechanical radar, which oscillates. Now there are 400 modules installed on the sensor head which substantially improves the performance of the radar: range increased by 50%, with an assurance of reliability for 10 years without maintenance, ability to function even if one module fails ...

    If these orders and cards are produced by Thales, an electronics installs them on the part delivered by REALMECA. The Meuse machined components with a tolerance of less than five microns and assemble. "The set comes fully tested here. It saves time to set up our systems, "says CEO of Thales, Jean-Pascal-Arroud Vignod.

    Today, the press celebrated the success of Thales as it offers France a technological breakthrough. Proud of the result, REALMECA is in shadow and in meets.

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    IN PICTURES: the effect of strikes on the airfield Scalp Libyan Al Jufra

    Google Earth publishes updated images of the aerodrome Libyan Al Jufra.

    A year after the strike of French aircraft on the airfield Libyan Al Jufra, Google Earth launches updated satellite images of the area. These can take the measure of the effect of seven cruise missiles Scalp-EG, which were fired by the Rafale and Mirage 2000D B of the Air Force, and the two Rafale in Navy, the night of 23 to 24 March 2011.
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    The modernization of the Rafale M Standard F1 to F3



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    Among them are ten new missions that will carry modernized naval fighters, nuclear deterrence.
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    The Ministry of Defence of France issued a statement on the modernization of 10/1 Rafale were delivered to the French Navy in the 2000s. These aircraft are being modernized standard F1 to F3, and the note provides information for the operation of the technical "Retrofit F1-F3" in DGA (Direction Générale de l'armement - general direction of weaponry), Christophe Carpentier.

    The mission of Carpentier's technical manager to coordinate the different actors in the process of modernization. By industry, are Dassault, MBDA, Thales, Sagem. By the French Government, are SIAE (Service de l'Aéronautique industriel - serving the aviation industry), the Marine Nationale (French Navy) and SIMMAD (Structure of intégrée maintien en condition des opérationnelle Matériels Aéronautiques de la défense - structure integrated maintenance in operational condition of aeronautical materials of defense).



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    These are 10/1 produced the Rafale F1 standard, equipped with only the employment capacity and air-air refueling. The "retrofit" of such aircraft is in a profound modification to elevate them to the same capacity as the F3 standard, currently in production. The gain will be operating the addition of new missions capable of accomplishment by these ten aircraft and ground attack and reconnaissance, plus the ability to ensure the mission of nuclear deterrence.

    According to Carpentier, one of the great challenges of the project is to organize the schedule for modernization of entry into each cell, so that it perfectly between the rate of production of the Rafale, without disrupting the industrial production of hunting.

    SOURCE / PHOTOS: Ministry of Defence of France



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    WRT the troubled selection of the JSF by the Netherleands, I advise you to research the murder of Pim Fortuyn, Theo Van Gogh, and another journalist that I don't remember the name who was making an inquiry about Theo Van Gogh's assassination.

    Edit: the journalist's name was Louis Sévèke

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    F-X2: French fighter will be announced in June
    O Vale, April 25

    F-X2: caça francês será anunciado em junho | Economia

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    FRENCH ARE ALSO DEVELOPING PLASMA STEALTH


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    Research engineer at the Electromagnetism and Radar Department (DEMR), Gerard Bobillot is responsible for mission "stealth radar" with the director of this department. Working at ONERA for thirty years, radar operator is interested in the topic of stealth since the year 1982/83. Today, the work of DEMR in this area include, among others, on plasmas whose work was initiated during 2002. First applications in 2020.
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    By 2003, this line of plasmas applied to stealth became a reality with the launch of a Federator Research Project (FRP), which involves teams of the departments Physical Measurements (DMPH), Information processing and modeling (DTIM ) and those of DEMR working on so-called "plasma mirror". "The radar antennas are" soft ", real reflectors, which have the theoretical advantage of being oriented very quickly. Today, this activity continues in Toulouse and Palaiseau," explains Gerard Bobillot. The objective of this work is to achieve direct beams of electromagnetic waves through a plasma, not through reflection, but refraction, this by modifying its parameters.
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    As part of the PRF, further research is to design plasma inside the micro-capillaries, stacked one upon another, would yield meta-materials or materials known as "photon band "whose propagation properties are extremely interesting. "Typically, these metamaterials are designed either with metal rods, or with glass rods. But there it is filled with plasma glass capillaries, which will allow switching by changing the properties of this structure, "said the engineer at Onera Palaiseau. In the future, these materials could be used to create protection systems switchable antenna. Thus, when the antenna does not work, the plasma is put in place to protect against electromagnetic attacks. There has been abroad several attempts to design antenna reflectors with tubes of this type, but larger diameter, that is to say, one centimeter against a few millimeters or less for microcapillary . "It performs research paper on this subject in close liaison with the Centre for Plasma Physics and Applications of Toulouse (CPAT) that has acquired significant technical on these tubes," he says.
    Meanwhile, Onera researchers interested in the use of plasmas to increase the stealth of some systems such as radomes. Two studies are underway. Created in collaboration with CPAT, the study focuses on the ability to protect the nose of a fighter aircraft. "For this, we must develop the plasma inside the radome, which implies that the plasma fills the interior volume," said Gerard Bobillot. The objective is to achieve a device that can switch very brief. "On the plasmas used, we have the choice of gas and pressure. So do we want to play with these settings to try to come to switch a few microseconds."

    Two air discharges very different
    If Onera is interested in confined plasmas, its teams are also developing plasmas in air. "Certainly, the idea is not new. This is indeed making a stealth aircraft by surrounding it with a plasma ball. The only problem is that the energy required to achieve this is huge," Gerard summarizes Bobillot. That's why Onera teams have opted for a more reasonable goal in treating only certain points local "shiny" device, which involves producing a stable plasma. A literature survey and a series of tests conducted by Serge Larigaldie, Senior Fellow in the Optical Diagnostics and plasma unit (DOP) DMPH and plasma specialist at Palaiseau Center, have revealed two stable discharges in the air.
    Purple, the first of these discharges is cold and wind resistant. It remains stable in the presence of air flowing at a speed of 80 m / s. In addition, it consumes only a few tens of watts. His only fault is to measure only 8 mm. "We varied the different parameters without managing to increase the length of the discharge. The only solution is to lower the pressure by a factor of ten which then allows to extend the discharge substantially. This means that it could be used at high altitude, "said the engineer. Why not imagine in the future ramps, designed with these plasmas, to equip certain moving parts of an airplane, just in places where there are slots? By giving them a continuum of plasma, it would be probably possible to hide them.

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    Produced over a length of 30 cm, in an experiment run in 2004 on the bench Cyprus, the second discharge, which consumes only a few hundred watts, is likely quite different from the first, even if the device for producing always consists of a point and a plane, the tip being anodic and cathodic terms as opposed to the device used for the first discharge. Researchers have begun to show interest, there are about ten years, as part of work focused on the cleanup. "The electron densities were one hundred times lower than those that allow us today to uptake," says Gerard Bobillot. Stable and beaming little light, this discharge plasma absorbs about 3 dB. Also Onera researchers will they try to produce more in order to achieve an absorption of about ten dB. However, this discharge has a major flaw, that of not being stable in the wind. "So we decided to let it develop, trying to regenerate constantly so you always have a sufficient volume of electrons". This work is conducted as part of a thesis launched in November 2004.

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    At what horizon the first applications of these plasmas could they emerge? "It all depends on what we're talking about plasmas," replied Gerard Bobillot. "Regarding confined plasmas can protect antennas, this horizon is located about ten years. For plasmas in air, it will take longer, at least 15 years. Many problems are not solved. Currently we're only getting very small plasmas. So we have to work hard to hope for treating the air inlet of a fighter plane and have an operational solution, "said the engineer DEMR.

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    AVIONICS TODAY MAGAZINE JUNE 2011 RAFALE IN COMBAT


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    UAE troops impress in Gulf war games
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    AL HAMRA // As UAE Air Force F-16s and Mirage 2000-9s offered air cover alongside French Rafale 3s, three armoured personnel carriers transporting infantrymen entered deep into enemy territory, engaging with the remaining forces of resistance and blocking them from retaking a compromised hilltop.




    The daylight assault involved a full air, ground and naval attack with 4,500 combined Emirati and French troops.

    The full-scale military training exercise played out on Umdaddi Hill on the western coast of Abu Dhabi yesterday.

    The united forces flexed their muscles under the joint command of Maj Gen (Staff) Pilot Rashad Mohammed Salem Al-Saadi, the UAE military spokesperson, and Rear Admiral Marin Gillier, commander of the French Navy special forces.

    By the end of the exercise, they had left their well-armed enemy crippled.

    It began after SAT-8 surveillance aircraft were used to locate the positions of the enemy on the hilltop.

    "Intelligence reports have revealed air defence sites in the enemy-controlled locations and the information has been fed to the command to take action," Maj Gen Rashad announced over a loudspeaker.

    After a shower of missiles were fired by descending Mirage 2000-9s and Rafale 3s, more reports came in from scouts about the air defence sites. With that information, the French Rafales fired guided missiles to eliminate the enemy's air defences.

    Next, the UAE sent in its Leclerc Main Battle Tanks (MBTs), firing even more shells at the enemy locations to accurately destroy three targets.

    The shelling continued for about 15 minutes before a break to let engineers pass through the area and clear ground for further advancement. UAE Apache Attack helicopters gave the engineers cover, and a path for the advancement of the Leclerc MBTs was quickly cleared.

    Next, the Dhibyani armoured personnel carriers carrying the joint UAE French infantry squad - identified as Force 32 - landed on the beach and advanced alongside the Leclerc MBTs.

    Five trucks with G6 155 millimetre long-range guns formed an artillery battery and fired deep into enemy territory as Force 32 began to engage the enemy.

    When rapid-firing rocket launchers had rained dozens of missiles on the enemy, Force 32 swept the area for any remaining hostile forces.

    The coordinated attack, played out in just 90 minutes, was closely watched by Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

    Flanking him were Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed, Minister of Presidential Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister, and Lt General Hamad Mohammed Thani Al Rumaithi, the Chief of Staff of the UAE Armed Forces.

    "There was no relation to what is going on currently in the political scene," said Maj Gen Al Saadi. "This exercise was part of our regular training schedule."

    But he added that the operation had worked to raise the readiness of the armed forces. "We are getting more and more prepared and this event enabled us to better our performance on the battlefield and concentrate on joint operations areas that needed more work," said Maj Gen Al Saadi. "Overall, I was very satisfied with the performance."

    The hilltop assault is one of several being carried out as part of the fifth Gulf 2012 Military Exercises, conducted between the UAE and French Armed Forces every four years.

    The exercises began in 1996, a year after the UAE and France signed a defence agreement.

    "This was the largest exercise we have conducted and the first time we used air, land and naval forces at once," said Rear Admiral Marin Gillier, Commander of the French Navy special forces in the UAE. "The UAE forces worked well on a technical level and an operational level in this operation."

    The next joint operation will be held in 2016.

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    BRIMSTONE UNDER STUDY FOR RAFALE

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    Combat aircraft: the war is restarted

    This is the story of a resurrection. After two decades of commercial flops, the Rafale from Dassault Aviation is poised to win the contract of the century in India.
    Looks like the British humor, this subtle blend of awkwardness and false second degree. Questioned by the "Financial Times" on February 7, the very serious Ian King acted as if the Rafale had not prevailed over Typhoon in the tender Indian concluded eight days earlier. "In my view, all options remain on the table," dropped the head of the British defense giant mégacontrat of about 126 combat aircraft, estimated at $ 12 billion.

    He added, look like much: "I will soon talk to my partner in the Eurofighter consortium, the Franco-German EADS (which owns 41%) and Italy's Finmeccanica (26%)." 'Nobody' is fooled, says a close case. After being selected by the Indian state to enter into exclusive negotiations, Dassault Aviation is likely to sign the deal before December. "

    Less than an ultimate ruse of history it would be finished by the curse of the Rafale. Twenty-seven years after its presentation at the headquarters of St. Cloud, the flying toy of the late Marcel Dassault has finally found his first real client other than the French army. And what a buyer! With this order, India is poised to sign the largest contract in the history of military aviation. Not to mention a second tranche in the study from 64 to 74 aircraft.

    Result: the Rafale again raises the interest of potential buyers. Brazil, who were promised the purchase of 36 units in 2010, dispatched his defense minister in New Delhi to reconsider the powers of the French fighter. Abu Dhabi, including Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed deplored "the non-competitive trading conditions and impassable Dassault Aviation" last November, is about to receive a delegation from the manufacturer.

    The military in Malaysia, right puzzle on replacing their old MiG-29russes, they pinch for French manufacturing. "The good news is as trouble, they fly in Flight", tells how to Audiard our defense minister, Gerard Longuet, which evoked even early December "the cessation of production."

    In fact, until now, the history of exporting the Rafale was like an endless swoop, where the French technical superiority crashed against the U.S. trade diplomacy.

    Whenever thought Dassault Aviation landing his first contract, teams of Boeing (F-15 and F-18) or Lockheed Martin (F-16 and F-35) reminded the Frenchies the harsh rules of realpolitik way business. The Netherlands and South Korea (2002), Singapore (2005) and even in our Moroccan friends (2007), they are the ones who always ended up winning.

    In Seoul, President George Bush was so moved by person to the article from the local authorities. What caused this press despite Dassault signed: "The U.S. gives weight again due to the Chinese proverb. Bamboo always leans towards decelui that grows stronger. "

    And if at least the U.S. administration had agreed to allow the crumbs to French ... Loupé: they were soon picked up by the Eurofighter consortium or by the Swedish Saab to the image of the 22 Gripen ordered by Switzerland in December .

    In a report submitted to the Minister of Defense Helvetian, Ueli Maurer, that Capital was able to consult, the pilots felt however that this low-cost fighter, nicknamed "the plane Ikea," not reached "the minimum capacity required "to accomplish the police mission in the air. "For ten years, the Americans lead an undermining work on" everything but the Rafale, "says the entourage of Charles Edelstenne, the CEO of Dassault Aviation. The interest of India shows that the cards can be reshuffled. "

    Let indeed unpatriotic Primary flight controls with its fiber, its active antenna radar capable of tracking 40 aircraft simultaneously and 3:15 to 150 nautical autonomy of a base, the Rafale is the best hunter on the market.

    The Helvetians are not perhaps not realized, but this semi-stealth aircraft is a real Swiss Army knife: it can carry out interception missions, reconnaissance, attack ground, sea and air, the all with nuclear weapons. At the Air Tactical Leadership Course (DPAC), an international competition held in the UAE in 2009, he even stood up to F-22, the wonder of the U.S. military banned from export.

    In six simulations, the Rafale was "shot" once for five draws. The Americans also refused seventh fight. Not to mention the F-35, presented as his future rival: this project combines both of delays and cost overruns that Senator John McCain's plans would simply stop.

    But it is in Libya that the French fighter showed the full extent of its capabilities. A real advertising campaign for the Rafale, this operation Harmattan. From the first day of the war, March 19, they have literally walked over enemy territory. Then, according to our information, were able to fit eight Scalp cruise missiles during the night of March 23 to 24.

    In total, early September, the Rafale had carried out 850 attacks. "This aircraft has proven he walked frankly better than its competitors in a theater of operations", says General Jean Rannou, former head of the Air Force. Convincing history of Indian officials, to say the least concerned about the threat to their Pakistani border, the emissaries of Dassault would not hesitate to submit videos of their Libyan raids.

    Still had to agree on the price. On this subject classified defense secrets, the manufacturer teams seem to have made considerable efforts. Of course, officially, the Rafale is roughly the same as a Typhoon when the Court of Auditors assesses the first to 142.3 million euros, its British counterpart to the second estimated 150 million. But in reality, the negotiations are proving extremely complex: the only documentation prior to the tender would fill a gymnasium. Especially, the buyer has an invincible weapon to bring down prices: once the total amount established, it requires the maximum "offsets", these direct and indirect counterparties that can reach over 60% of the contract price .

    And some were surprising. "As part of the 15 Mirage 2000-5 bought in Athens in 2000, the works of Dassault Aviation has long offered trips to Greece through local tour operators," recalls one Thales, the specialist electronics.

    No trips to Rajasthan this time, but significant transfers of technology. On this issue yet, Dassault Aviation has the art of letting fantasies run. We know: in principle, only the first 18 Rafale will be manufactured in France, while the following must be 108 by the Indian aerospace giant, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).

    But the truth is William Lecompte-Boinet in "Air and Cosmos," this national champion "must first prove he can make complete sub-assemblies and final réaliserl'assemblage a Rafale made in India."

    A delicate mission. While some land near Bangalore has been selected to host the future range, there is no guarantee that HAL will reach to producing the next four years.

    "Indianized version of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI Russian, signed in 2000, is still not left the factory," says a subcontractor to Dassault, before adding: "But you never hear or Edelstenne pronounce Sarkozy such derogatory remarks. "It's true that we are still being negotiated exclusive ...

    Versatile and semi-stealth: to 142 million euros, the Rafale has no equivalent

    Software for data fusion
    Designed by Dassault Aviation and fully integrated weapons system, this program can retrieve information from all sensors, then provide the pilot with immediate synthesis phase of shooting.

    A range of 3:15 in combat
    With six air-to-air Mica and additional tanks, the Rafale can ensure such a long mission protecting a G20. The Typhoon has a range of 2:30, the F-18 2-hour 25 and 1 hour 20 Gripen.

    A control system worthy of a video game
    This is a specialty of Dassault Aviation, recognized worldwide for its expertise in this area. The FBW fiber provide the Rafale maneuverability and responsiveness without comparison.

    An active antenna radar RBE2-EASA
    Developed by Thales, this machine is capable of tracking 40 aircraft and engage in 8 simultaneously. Electronic scanning ensures at the same time monitoring and detection of ground targets on land or sea.

    Rivals: the European Typhoon, two U.S. fighters and a low-cost Swedish

    Typhoon: Produced by the Eurofighter consortium, this remains a fighter aircraft with air-air and its active antenna radar still suffers delay.

    F-18: The marvel of Boeing remains the most serious competitor of the Rafale. Australia has ordered 24 in 2007.

    F-35: Still in development phase, the stealth fighter at Lockheed Martin combines the delays. His concern: it is too heavy to carry air to air combat.

    Gripen: The Swedish aircraft ... is unbeatable on price. At 80 million euros each, the fighter nicknamed "the plane Ikea" has no other advantages.

    Tens of Rafale are under negotiation or will be:

    Kuwait: 14
    The negotiations dragged on since 2009. The decision of Abu Dhabi could snowball.

    Malaysia: 18
    Malaysian soldiers want to replace their old MiG-29 Russian-made.

    Switzerland: 22
    Suspicions of corruption could soon challenge the choice of Sweden's Saab.

    India: 126
    Dassault has been selected to enter exclusive ennégociation. Signing expected before December.

    Abu Dhabi: 60
    Dassault after staying away in November, the Crown Prince seems ready to change his mind.

    Brazil: 36
    Two years after the true-false command Rafale by Lula, the countries relaunch the tender.

    Qatar: 24
    Command of the Air Force wants to replace its fleet of Mirage 2000-5 from the 1990s.

    Stages of negotiation to $ 12 billion:

    1. The request for information: Known RFI (Request for Information), this first step allows the recipient country to review market conditions to identify their needs.

    2. The Request for Proposal: Three to six months after the RFI, the acquirer sends an RFP (Request for Proposal). Applicants should include specific proposals and costed.

    3. The competition finalists: Two to five successful proposals. The country then negotiates the price step by step and counterparties ("offsets"), as technology transfer.

    4. Exclusive negotiations: The winner estannoncé. But the country will still skimp with him the details of regulation and technology transfer. With the other finalists in ambush.
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    Indian Air Force Chief Flies Rafale In France

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    Photo 1 Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, Chief of the Air Staff after a one hour sortie in the Rafale Aircraft at St. Dizier Airbase. Also seen in the picture are commandant (Squadron Leader) Kubiak Thierry, Commander of the Rafale Squadron and General Jean-Paul Paloméros, Chief of Staff of the French Air Force.

    Photo 2 Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, Chief of the Air Staff after a one hour sortie in the Rafale Aircraft at St. Dizier Airbase. Also seen in the picture are commandant (Squadron Leader) Kubiak Thierry, Commander of the Rafale Squadron and General Jean-Paul Paloméros, Chief of Staff of the French Air Force.

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    Sommy, any news on Rafale roadmap revealed sometime back with weapons pod, more stealth shaping, changed rear wings???
     

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