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Recap: IAF procurements between 2004 and 2014

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Sancho, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. MilSpec

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    Actually I have always been quite impressed by 23's performance. both sub and supersonic performance was quite good on the system. It's the avionics and maintenance on the system that was a dog.
     
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    Actually I have always been quite impressed by 23's performance. both sub and supersonic performance was quite good on the system. It's the avionics and maintenance on the system that was a dog.[/QUOTE]

    For that time and the level of capabilities of our enemies for sure.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    That's basically it.

    France was just going to scrap them, but since India still operates Jaguars they asked if the IAF would be interested in getting the old planes for spares. Answer was yes.
     
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    "Dutch pilot Leon Van Maurer, who had more than 1200 hours flying F-16s, flew against MiG-23ML Flogger-Gs from air bases in Germany and the U.S. as part of NATO’s aerial mock combat training with Soviet equipment. He concluded the MiG-23ML was superior in the vertical to early F-16 variants, just slightly inferior to the F-16A in the horizontal, and has superior BVR capability."
    from the previous link
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    It's still comparing it to F16As, we are now facing upgraded Block 50 MLU, Block 52 and JF17 with modern 4th gen radar and avionics too. Add AWACS capabilities and you know why old gen fighters don't make a difference anymore.
     
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    And thus my remark of Slapping on AL31FN with DARE3 upgrades and a radar. Would have made a stop gap, wouldn't have forced IAF to keep buying MKI's (not that I am complaining). It just is quite sad that Mig21 still in service and Mig27's going out before them.
     
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    Well we need BVR capable interceptors, even if reliability is an issue, but we don't need single role strike fighters with reliability issues, when we have multi role fighters now. Any upgraded Mig 29 is better than an Mig 27 in modern air warfare.
     

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