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Revealed: Pak Arming Hizbul Mujahideen With Chemical Weapons

Discussion in 'Internal Affairs' started by Hellfire, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    According to the accessed transcripts, Hizbul members have already got their hands on these chemical weapons.

    Manoj Gupta | CNN-News18
    Updated:July 12, 2017, 1:49 PM IST

    New Delhi: Pakistan is arming the terror group Hizbul Mujahideen with chemical weapons to carry out terror strikes in Kashmir, audio excerpts intercepted by security agencies have revealed.

    These transcripts are undeniable and damning proof of how Pakistan is aiding and abetting terror activities in Pakistan. Terror outfits have lost 90 members to military offensives during the past few months, and hitting back with chemical weapons may be a desperate way for Hizbul to get back at the Indian security establishment.

    According to the accessed transcripts, Hizbul members have already got their hands on these chemical weapons. Plans to use these weapons, primarily at forces, seem to be a desperate attempt to retaliate against the back-to-back successful offences launched by the security forces.

    “Peer Sahib [LeT chief Hafiz Muhammed Saeed] wants me, but my people want me back. Our next programme will be after Eid...We will plan our next move after Eid,” says the transcript accessed by News 18.

    Members of this outfit hope to surprise the Indian security forces, which have so far been dealing in conventional weaponry, with this chemical attack. “Inshallah, we are going to get lots of support from Pakistan...things are happening along the border. In days to come, Pakistan will step-up its anti-India game,’ a Hizbul operative can be heard saying at one point.

    At another instance, this operative adds, “Till now we’ve used grenade launchers on the Indian army...killing just 3-4 and injuring a few. But now it’s time to change our tactics. We will straightaway use chemical weapons...to kill as many as possible at the same time.”

    Hizbul Mujahideen is the biggest terror outfit in the Valley with around 200 active members. Its members are suspected to have aided Monday’s Amarnath Yatra attacks.


    http://www.news18.com/news/india/revealed-pak-arming-hizbul-with-chemical-weapons-1459029.html
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    If true, then this will be the greatest mistake by Pakistan - ever. Indian policy is straight, use of weapon of mass destruction will invite retaliation of scale they may not be able to absorb.
     
  4. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    NBC-Nuclear, biological and Chemical attacks come under same category and use of any of them will invite similar punitive action as in case of nuke attack.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I dont think pakistani are that fool, using chemical weapons, they will get strong retaliation from India and they might face sanctions from other countries
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    I remember scrolling down my FB news feed, where an article about how " Indian Occupational Forces might be using chemicals on Freedom Fighters " written by some Kashmir Azadi Tigers , just 2 days ago.

    We should be ready. It seems they are going to use the chemicals on locals and then name India for doing it.
     
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    Anish BANNED BANNED

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    Last time pakistani armed the jihadis with MANPADS the reaction was very strong by our side.

    Again they are inviting trouble
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Recently, US used this pretext of Chemical weapon use to attack Syria. Imagine what will happen if these chemical weapons are traced back to Pakistan. These Jihadis are calling flame throwers as chemical weapons. IA has used them very recently to just evaporate these pigs.
     
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    Flame thrower won't be easy to smuggle across LoC.

    If encountered by IA patrol the firefight may result in explosions as gas tank can rupture and explode which can trigger artillery duels.
     
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    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    They will use chemical weapons on populace and then blame it on India....
     
  11. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    "VINASH KALE VIPRIT BUDDHI"

    Pakistan is on SUICIDAL path. The moment it uses chemical weapons the whole narrative of freedom fight will change and there will be no sympathy in whatsoever form towards perpetrators. Instead the world will unite and back India to teach lesson to Pakistan. The only nation which will support Pakistan is China. We may have to implement what @vstol jockey had discussed on another thread about complete annihilation of Pakistan using nukes before dealing with China, which may then dither after seeing what India did to Pakistan. Situation doesn't looks good.
     
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    Grevion Think Tank TROLL ELITE MEMBER

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    If the pigs in Rawalpindi think they can get away after a chemical strike on IA then they are grossly mistaken.
     
  13. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    But the question is, is it possible to wipe out Pakistan with nukes, while ensuring both that the fallout does not drift to India and that Pakistan isn't left with any surviving nuclear assets at all?
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Do you think they are sane?

    Madrasa Studies have rendered them insane and you can't expect any sane decision or actions from insane people......

    The whole idea of Pakistan as a nation is now stuck to destruction of India and Hindus, Sikhs, Jain, Buddhists (entire sanatan mat) and establishing GAJWA-E-Hind and for that they will go to any extent. It is battle of ideology Islam vs every other religion on earth and it is going on ever since the inception of this stone age religion called ISLAM religion of peace (actually war just as all things are ULTA in islam).
     
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    NS52 MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The media has created a hyper situation without ever knowing the facts about the Chemical Weapons. Chemical weapons are banned under convention and only four Countries in the world have declared their stockpile Russia, US, India and North Korea. No other nation produces or stocks chemicals.
    The chemicals are avaialble every nook and corner of the world and can be thrown to create fear or some damage. But Chemical Weapons of Miliatry Use are a different ball game. Half of the stock degrades and converts into other chemical and cannot be of much use.
    Production, any country having pesticide industry has capability to produce chemical weapons, but is it possible, concentration, and then stocking.
    Let us assume theoritically chemcal shell is avaiable to be delivered, now comes the logistics to transport the chemical device from pakistan to India held Jammu and Kashmir. Even if we accept it reached its destination and is used against whom Indian Army which is so dispersed and living amongst the population the the collateral damage would be far greater than the number of soldiers affected. TRo cause casualty there is aneed to have concentration and ideal temperature that is above 30 degrees for non persistent agent.
    A persistent agent will cause more collateral casualties than of the persitent and would make the area unsafe.
    Are the handlers in pakistan willing to lose loyalty of the victims who are innocent bystanders and their stone pelleters. It needs a careful analysis and not create fear hysteria.
    Press must not create panic but remain on fact and analyse befor projecting such ideas.
     
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