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Rohingyas - Ethnic cleansing or the only viable solution for long-term peace

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by BMD, Nov 22, 2017.

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  1. _Anonymous_

    _Anonymous_ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I have already written that the AIT theory is flawed . I have also written that just as there's no proof to back it up , whatever is there in the public domain which the proponents of the AIT use to back their claims can be cited to prove the OIT as well .

    The article you've posted merely confirms what I'm saying .

    To elaborate , if there was no AIT , it follows that the Aryans were natives of India and that they made their way out of India. But in the archaeological realm just as there's no proof to back the AIT claim there's none to back the OIT as well.
     
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    None. Do you have any to prove you are your father's son as per your own analogy ?
     
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    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Exactly. That is the point. There is no difference whether one's birth with the parent's record is recorded in a hospital or if it is simply out of claim from the parents.

    Written history is as malicious or genuine as is the "Smriti" and "Shruti". The proof lies in its universal adoption and acceptance across the diversity of the subcontinent and beyond for millenniums.
     
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    I don't think that anyone wants to win brownie points to prove OIT and its predominance, no one is interested in it. But all have serious apprehension of mal-intended designs in propogation of AIT!! To destroy the myth of AIT, OIT was born.
     
  5. BMD

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    They did the same with all colonies though, so your logic doesn't hold. Post WWII, no country had to fight for independence from the UK.
     
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    Yes, but ultimately those natives - in say the US - are better off for it now. You only have to look at the net flow of migration from ex-colonies to know.

    South Africa became independent from the UK in 1931 before Apartheid began under the National Party in 1948. The National Party that introduced apartheid opposed the UK fighting the Nazis in WWII.

    If you want to look at colonies who actually fought European countries for independence then please see French Indochina (Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia).
     
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    I saw this coming a few posts ago.
    You're conflating personal filial faith with universal faith in the scriptures - two very different phenomena . Ones own faith in ones lineage that one takes for granted unless proved otherwise is a poor analogy to cite for universal faith in ones scriptures . Besides , The scriptures themselves consist of various messages - spiritual ones apart from mythological ones purported to be historical by these scriptures . Its the latter that we're discussing here .For one to express belief in the latter requires either blind faith or one subjects it to rational scientific methods of tests and analysis before deriving the results.
     
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    OIT wasn't borne to negate AIT. AIT would be refuted on current evidence only because it fails to conform to the very stringent rational scientific tests and analysis the very same Western sources subject their own theories to .

    This in turn doesn't answer the question of the similarities in linguistics of the Indo European languages . If there was no movement of Aryans into the sub continent ( Invasion / migration ) , it followed that there had to be a movement of Aryans in the opposite direction .

    Hence OIT. But as a theory it still has to satisfy those very same rigourous scientific analytical methods that any other theory would be subjected to.

    As of now , the evidence is lacking but as more findings along the Saraswati river come to light gradually bringing within its scope linkages with the Indus Valley civilization conflating the two into the Indus Saraswati valley civilization , other such findings are being examined which while they're undermining the AIT shall gradually shed more light on the OIT.

    Having said that , we still have a long journey ahead with a lot of obstacles from vested interests in India and abroad who will continue to undermine the OIT while claiming AIT to be THE genuine theory to explain what I've highlighted above .
     
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