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RSS instigated assassination bid on first Indian army chief: CIA files

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by InfoWarrior, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. InfoWarrior

    InfoWarrior Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Here is the CIA report @A_poster @_Anonymous_ @Rajaraja Chola @Paliwal Warrior
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    What do you @Agent_47 think about this ? @Levina @Abingdonboy

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    Army tweets about mutilation but had refused to respond to RTI
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...t-had-refused-to-respond-to-rti/1/942827.html

    MHA breaches RTI by refusing information about ‘Human Shield’ SOPs
    http://kashmirreader.com/2017/08/24/mha-breaches-rti-refusing-information-human-shield-sops/

    Unlawful rejection of RTI applications by Certain Security Forces
    https://factly.in/unlawful-rejection-of-rti-applications-by-certain-security-forces/

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    'Ashwathama Hatha... Kunjaraha!' @omya

    अश्वत्थामा हता: इति | नरोवा कुञ्जरोवा ||

    (Ashwatthama Hatha: Iti, Narova Kunjarova)

    This means: “Ashwatthama is dead. Know not whether man or elephant”.
     
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  2. An Indian

    An Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Given the fact that this incident happened very very long ago, the Army might respond to an RTI. it might be worth trying.
     
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    Very strange.


    Because strength of Army was greatly reduced & severe cuts made to its funding by Nehru & co after getting full control of gov in 1950 (around the time Tibet invasion was starting), & followed strongly after winning first election in 1952. That emaciated & crippled army was deemed enough to defend against Pakistan,but a proper battle hardened & well equipped (by 1950 standards) army of 1950 would have lost to Pakistan by sparing few divisions to aid Tibetans in a defensive warfare against Chinese peasant rabble on a terrain that heavily favored defenders?
     
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  5. InfoWarrior

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    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Ya we totally trust cia.files or kgb files only when it suits us

    Like when they mention that Gandhi family was on kgb payrolls

    We even don't apply logic that with so much opportunity at corruption. Why would they need to accept money from kgb
     
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    Most likely not an verified story as CIA had almost NIL presence in India those days and had to depend on hearsay. TBH India was never their priority. Even now their informations can never be deemed as 90% correct though I agree CIA had managed to have moles deep inside many establishments.
     
  8. InfoWarrior

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    If army rejects RTI on this then its most likely the other way around. Hanging 5 or 6 people cannot be hidden, their families would know.
     
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    Families would have been informed. This news most likely fake. Cariappa woud never have kept this secret.
     
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  10. An Indian

    An Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't know where you get your perspectives. Then according to you Shivaji, Ashoka and a host of other Kings from all over the country - East, North-East, West, South, North were trained by the British!!!
     
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    An Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I also think so but the best way to answer this is to file an RTI. I'm sure the Army will respond to this as it is long in the past and (most probably) does not include official secrets... Till an RTI is filed and there is some form of a reply, I cannot take cognizance of this news.
     
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    Yes, I agree - this is MAJOR, MAJOR in India. This cannot be hidden.
     
  13. InfoWarrior

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    There was very little media in 1950. Lots of Sikhs deserted army during that time.
    574 SIKH DESERTERS REPORTEDLY HELD BY INDIAN FORCES
    http://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/12/world/574-sikh-deserters-reportedly-held-by-indian-forces.html

    From 'deserter' to 'missing' soldier; army reverses its own 15 year old order
    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...my-reverses-its-own-15-year-old-order-2203638

    What if they where hanged and later declared missing in action.
    Let me remind you the case of Ketchup colonel.
    Truth of 'Ketchup Col killings' exposed
    A cooked up encounter of five terrorists in Assam in 2003 that led to the sacking of Col H.S. Kohli - infamously known as 'Ketchup Colonel' - was ordered by two of his seniors but they faced no action, a Headlines Today investigation has revealed.
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/truth-of-ketchup-col-killings-exposed/1/103580.html
     
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    Let me give you my perspective

    India was divided into hundreds of Kingdoms constantly Waring with each other. The mutual hatred between Hindu Kingdoms was so much that invaders took advantage of this. Example Battle of Tarain, Third battle of panipat etc. Caste system and backward thinking further weakened Hindu society.

    Islamics got hold of Gun powder and cannon. Even Shivaji employed Ibrahim gardi as cannoneer. How much money these cannoeers must have extorted ? The Vijaynagara Kingdom fell because the Islamic cannoneer betrayed the Hindu king. This crucial technology couldn't reach India from Western Europe, because middle east came in the way. This situation didn't change till Europeans found a sea route to India. The Hindu kings didn't have to depend on Muslim technology.

    These Mughals and Nizams who seemed surmountable, became easy targets.

    Just like Americans gave weapons to Afghans to fight Russia. Europeans started arming Hindu kings against Muslim rulers. Many Europeans worked in under Hindu kings as generals.
    Mahadhji Scindhia was there in the disastrous third battle of Panipat, He was maimed in the battle. He recovered most of the Maratha empire.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahadaji_Shinde

    Here is the European general who enabled Mahadhji to resurrect Hindu India.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoît_de_Boigne

    First the Europeans armed Hindus to deal with Mughal rulers, later they subdued the disunited Hindus. British conquered India with trained Indian soldiers. British created the Indian army to defend against Afghan invasions, capture north East India, Subdue local rulers, etc.

    Iranian or Afghan perspective is also the same, Hindustan was a easy place to plunder for quick money. Now British have trained the Hindus and they are devoid of a easy source of income.

    Do you know what would have happened if British were ousted in 1857 ? India would have been divided into pieces. Hindus would be bickering and fighting with each other. Good luck dealing with the mughals and Nizams etc.

    The Marathas fought many wars against the Nizams but could never conquer the Nizams of Hyderabad. Nizam army couldn't last 5 days against Indian army. I don't think any traditional Hindu army could have achieved this feat, this was legacy of British training.

    Surrender of Niazi in Dhaka was also not possible by a traditional Hindu army, It was a modern Indian Army.
     
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