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Russia looking for buyers for 18 'Indian' Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets

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  1. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Russia looking for buyers for 18 'Indian' Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets


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    MOSCOW: Russia is seeking potential buyers for a batch of 18 Sukhoi Su-30 multi-role fighter aircraft, rejected by India on concerns about their engines and returned in 2003, a Russian defense official said today.

    "The 18 Su-30s previously used by India and then returned, are in an aviation repair plant in Belarus and are on sale to potential buyers," deputy director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Alexander Fomin said.


    The 18 fighters could be modernised before being sold, Ria Novosti news agency quoted Fomin as saying.

    The Su-30MKI is India's lead fighter aircraft, and around 140 have been produced under license by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the report said.

    Development of the Su-30 began in the 1980s for the Soviet Armed Forces, based on the Su-27UB conversion trainer.

    The first batch of 18 Su-30s delivered to India were Su- 30MK and Su-30K standard, and were built to a lower specification than the later Su-30MKI. This meant that they did not have thrust-vectoring engine nozzles or canard foreplanes, enabling extra maneuverability, the report said.

    Their avionics systems were also built to a lower specification than the later Su-30MKIs built by HAL, which included a high level of Israeli and French-built systems, the report said.


    Russia looking for buyers for 18 'Indian' Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets - Economic Times
     
  2. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Not MKIs, no concern. :yey:
     
  3. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    As good as Regular 4th Gen Fighters, who cares :coffee:
     
  4. Rajaraja Chola

    Rajaraja Chola 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    they should give it to afghanistan as a aid package...
     
  5. layman

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    Russia giving to Afghanistan as AID package. Will it happen ?
     
  6. tangocharlie

    tangocharlie Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Russia can gift these jets to Afghanistan, just to take revenge from Pakistan. But, Russian revenge is not in air and no where. As per Retd Lieutenant Suja Ahemad Pasha, several Russian spies are working in Balochistan for supplying arms and ammunition to BLA.

    So, can be happen as per my perspective.
     
  7. Skull and Bones

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    And what will they do with it? Showcase them in Shahre-Now park in Kabul?
     
  8. tunguska

    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is good way. give this to Afghan forces in form of aid.
     
  9. DragonKnight

    DragonKnight Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Give 'em to Vietnam. With an upgrade option to deploy BrahMos.... what say you guyz?
     
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    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    just one question: when IAF give them back these 18 jets then did russia replace it or not with improved jet to IAF?
     
  11. tangocharlie

    tangocharlie Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    We are in license production with Russia, the amount already been transferred. So, as per that license we can build these planes within HAL. These planes were among the first batch we received from Russia, manufactured in there factories.
     
  12. tunguska

    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    So it means that we have replaced those Russian make jets with locally license build plane.
     
  13. tangocharlie

    tangocharlie Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    As far as I know, we have license to build 270+ jets. and currently we have around 137 jets in Inventory. So, we can build around 130+ jets in HAL factories. We already paid the license fees as applicable, we can add that number in our inventory, if any one will crash will be replaced by new one.
     
  14. tunguska

    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Your explanation is good. I agree with it.
    I am slightly confuse from my point of view which is different.. In order to build locally license build aircraft, it also needs to build facility and you need to gradually mastered in to production of different section like wings and tail section, fuselage, engine etc. Somewhere I have read that in 2010, we have rolled out the complete locally made Su 30 mki in 2010 and indigenous was ranging from production process to the raw material. In short complete locally made jet manufactured in 2010.

    This particular incident of giving the jet back to the Russia had happened in to early 2003. At that time if I go by your logic (mean we have produced the locally) then it must be from knockdown or semi knockdown kit. So does Russia have provided that at FOC or what? & in how much timeline we have replaced those numbers?
     
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    tangocharlie Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Before 2010, we got all blocks ready made from Russia and then we assemble in HAL. But, Now we are manufacturing all parts (except engine, avionics and some other parts) in India only. We have 12 Su-30MKI rolling capacity in HAL Nasik Manufacturing Unit. We are not exceeding our license limits and will not make any modification without updating Russia. We have the timeline to manufacture them all till 2016. After that time frame, new SU-30 MKI aircraft service life has no role as we will move on 5th generation aircraft.
     
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