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Russia ready to offer India the MiG-35 to replace the Rafale fighter jet

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  1. sam2012

    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    The Russian arms industry is ready to offer India, according to media reports, not only the Su-30MKI, but also the MiG-35, if the country refuses to purchase the French jet Rafale.
    RIA Novosti learned this on Wednesday at the Aero India-2015 Exhibition from the head of RSK MiG, Sergey Korotkov, who was expressing his company’s desire to participate in new tenders and competitions in India.
    “We have everything that is needed to compete. We have not lost hope that a new tender or competition will be announced,” said Mr. Korotkov, adding that RSK is ready to offer India the more advanced version of jet fighters – the MiG-35.
    Earlier, Indian media reported that the Indian Ministry of Defense might refuse to purchase 126 fighter jets for its Air Force from Rafale, which won the tender in 2012, and instead buy the Russian Su-30MKI.
    Shortly after that, the Business Standard, citing sources in the Indian Ministry of Defense, reported that New Delhi would not be buying the Rafale jets, because of the high prices. At the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of India, they said that, in terms of price attractiveness and reliability, the Russian multi-role Su-30 fighters are comparable to the Rafale.

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    Russia ready to offer India the MiG-35 to replace the Rafale fighter jet | idrw.org
     
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    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    We are hit by obsolescence,” was how Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha commenced his candid admission, but his subsequent statement, that “MMRCA does not mean the Rafale”, added to many ifs about acquisition of the French fighter jet by the Indian Air Force.
    In an interaction with the media at Aero India 2015 here on Wednesday, Air Chief Marshal Raha said, “It is important we have the MMRCA at the earliest, and we need to have it in the quickest possible time because drawdown is true”, even as he explained that the IAF has upgraded some of its fighters while the induction of Tejas Mk-II, the FGFA (fifth-generation fighter aircraft) being jointly developed by Russia and India, and the proposed Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft would help the airstrike wing step up its fleet strength to 42 squadrons.
    But when asked about Rafale, he said he would prefer to talk about MMRCA.

    IAF Chief: MMRCA does not mean Rafale | The Asian Age

    SO RUSSIANS ARE PITCHING Mig-35 again:award::devilwork:
     
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    I wish them as much success as they got in Egypt.
     
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    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Why not wish rafale the success as they got in brazil lol
     
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    positron Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Do not be rude. For the Egypt deal the French are paying, and the French govt is giving the guarantee to their banks that Egypt would pay.
    Russia would never do that. Now Egypt has more than 200 F-16s and for them to purchase Rafale seems more like a polticial purchase.
    Good luck to everyone for that matter.
    MiG-35 is not the plane for India at present, if it was MiG MFI maybe so let India focus on Tejas
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Mig-35 can not be an option as replacement for Rafale. If it is not Rafale, the entire tender will have to be cancelled and no ac which was part of the tender can be bought. India will have to re-tender or order any of the existing airframes only.
     
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    MiG-35 was evaluated by IAF and rejected because it did not meet the Qualitative requirements. only Eurofighter and Rafale succeeded in meeting Qualitative requirements.

    now it will be very difficult for IAF/MoD to justify purchase of this ac against MMRCA tender. IAF will have project a fresh requirement, submit fresh QRs and float tender for this purchase. we can safely assume it will be minimum 05 years before any deal is signed.
     
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    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    lol. RT just showed inlight footage of "u-25 at 11,880 meters. It can fly high but it hasnt got a cealed cabin. Sotty, its offtopic. Just saying.
     
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    Hey there, and where have you been all this time
     
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    MiG-35s oh please

    Its an upgraded Mig-29
     
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    Spreading Justice :award:
     
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    so you are back now ?
     
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    Both the French and Russians are desperate, there are some good deals out there. The problem is you just don't know what you are going to end up with both in the terms of aircraft and parts and service down the road. Even now India is having to buy parts for Russian Military Equipment on the open market which is pretty limited.
     
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    Procurement: Buy Russian, Or Else

    September 12, 2014: President Putin of Russia recently sent some essential supplies to Serbia, as a personal gift, to put some of Serbia’s Mig-21 and MiG-29 aircraft back in service. The essential supplies consisted of special batteries the MiGs required to operate. Why did the Serbs lack batteries? Therein lies an interesting tale.
    Serbian Air Force officials knew they had to obtain additional batteries nearly a year ago and asked the Defense Ministry to order them. This was done, but not before someone in the Defense Ministry noted that India offered the same batteries (manufactured for their own MiGs and for export) at a third of what the Russians (the usual supplier) charged. So Serbia ordered from India. Russia found out and demanded that Serbia cancel that order or else Russia would withhold MiG parts and maintenance services only Russia still provided. Serbia protested but was reminded them that in 1999 Russia was the only major power that had backed them when they sought, in vain, to prevent Kosovo province from becoming an independent state (something NATO approved of). The Serbs felt they owned their “big brother” something and gave in. However the Serbs pointed out that money was short and it would be a while before they could scrape together the funds to pay for the pricey Russian batteries.
    While all this was going on the air force ran out of batteries. Thus by June the Serbian air force revealed that none of its combat aircraft (26 MiG-21s, four MiG-29s and 18 J-22s) were available for duty because the Defense Ministry was having problems buying batteries for the aircraft.
     
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    This Is Going To Piss Off The Russians
    by James Dunnigan
    May 18, 2011

    India is seeking new sources of spare parts for its vast array of Russian military equipment. Any reputable supplier can bid, as long as they aren't Russian. This new policy is the latest example of the growing rift between the Indian military and their chief supplier of military gear for over half a century. While India has been generally satisfied with the cheap, but rugged and effective[​IMG] Russian weapons, there has been less satisfaction with the quality and timely delivery of spare parts. India also accuses Russia of jacking up prices after deals had been made. Decades of complaints from India have not changed the situation much.
    India has tried manufacturing its own spare parts, but that has not worked out well, despite the fact that India manufactures many Russian systems under license. But some types of parts require manufacturing skills that India has not achieved yet. This became public eight years ago when India sought reasons why so many of their Russian warplanes were crashing. India lost 250 MiG-21s to accidents between 1991 and 2003. When consulted, Russia pointed out that India had insisted on manufacturing many of the spare parts needed to keep MiG-21s operational, and many of these parts were not manufactured to Russian specifications. While Russia does not have a reputation for making the highest quality equipment, their standards are often higher than India's. It's no secret that much of the military[​IMG] equipment made in India is pretty shabby by world standards.
    But India has cash, and has no qualms about getting quality spares from any source that can deliver them. There are, in fact, firms in many nations (Israel, China, several in Eastern Europe) that produce, or can produce, these spare parts. India is seeking such suppliers, and will probably get all the quality, affordable, spares it needs[​IMG]. As a bonus, the Russians will be highly pissed off.
     
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