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Russia to Showcase T-90S Tank at Arms Show in Peru

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by Manmohan Yadav, May 19, 2013.

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  1. Manmohan Yadav

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    Russia will exhibit its modernized T-90S main battle tank along with a score of other advanced military equipment at an arms exhibition in Peru, Russia’s state arms exporter Rosoboronexport said.

    The SITDEF PERU-2013 defense expo will take place in the Peruvian capital, Lima, on May 15-19. Rosoboronexport and 11 Russian defense companies will be among the most prominent exhibitors at the event.

    “The T-90S tank [manufactured by the Uralvagonzavod company] will be the star of the Russian exhibit,â€￾ said Sergei Ladygin, the head of Rosoboronexport delegation at the show.

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    Ladygin said that the Peruvian military officials have expressed interest in the T-90S tank while visiting Russia last year.

    The modified T-90S is fitted with an increased power multi-fuel 1,130-h.p. diesel engine with gas turbine injection, which allows the vehicle to attain a top speed of over 60 km/h on the road and up to 45 km/h on rough terrain.

    T-90S redesigned turret features a modernized 125-mm gun, new fire control, navigation and communications systems, and a remotely-controlled mounted 7.62-mm machine gun.

    Other military equipment to be displayed at the Russian exhibit includes Tigr armored vehicles, Ural trucks, Igla portable air defense systems, and Mi-171 military transport helicopters.

    Russia, the world’s second largest arms exporter after the United States, has been eyeing Peru as a new lucrative addition to its Latin American customer list, which includes Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, and Ecuador.

    Rosoboronexport sold $14.5 billion worth of weaponry to Latin American countries in the past 12 years, according to the company’s General Director Anatoly Isaykin.
     
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    Rock n Rolla Lt. Colonel STAR MEMBER

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    T-90S scores in the looks dept too :cheers:
     
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    Why dont India/DRDO showcase Arjun MBT and its advanced versions with Anti Tank Missiles and other advanced versions in the same exhibition. We can develop a prototype and can showcase that. I am sure if the world sees these tanks, India will get more orders than Russians and it can help India to establish large production lines and IA will also wakeup when the world is recognizing MBT arjun and its technology and will start respecting our own technology.
     
  4. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    Arjun is not for sale, because its Main Gun and Kanchan Armour is highly classified, this armour is able to defeat APDS and HEAT rounds and is believed to withstand APFSDS. During development in the 1980s, the Kanchan armour defeated a 106 mm RCL gun which was tried on the Arjun Tank.

    During the trials in 2000, the Kanchan was able to withstand a hit from a T-72 at point blank range,
    and was able to defeat all available HESH and fin stabilized armour piercing discarding sabot (FSAPDS) rounds,
    which included the Israeli FSAPDS rounds.
     
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    But then why is IA not placing big orders if MBT Arjun is so successful. I am concerned because unless large orders are there large production lines will not be set. Once large production lines are set, future versions of MBT Arjun will also be very cost effective since already a large production process will be in place. We can sell Arjun MBT minus a few classified features to smaller African/Asian countries and can get the orders if IA is not placing the orders.
     
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    orders for Mk.I 124 tanks has been completed
    and further orders of 124 tanks has been placed

    once trial for Mk.II are finished the production will start
    for a total of 300-400 Arjun Mk.II tanks.

    after that based on Arjun Mk.II very likey to be Mk.IIIs
    development will begin, building a single Arjun tank takes about 3-4 months
    hence, 20-25 of them are built simultaneously.
     
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    IA is resisting MBT Arjun. As per them it is too heavy and expensive to maintain. As per them T90 are being produced under license. Why dont IA understand that this way we are not supporting indigenous technology and still paying foreign currency to outsiders.
     
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    Commission bro., Commission.
    Buying from DRDO wont get them commission
    be it Military officers or the Politicians

    but the Arjun series will reach numbers close to 1000+
    while T-90s will be close to 2000+

    One of the main reasons is also that single T-90s cost close to Rs.15 crores

    while a Single Arjun Costs Rs.42 Crores,
    reason being its development costs and
    high tech used in its Armour gun and design.
     
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    You are correct commissions is one of the factor. Also T-90 project may involve foreign travel for some who will never get this opportunity in case of Arjun. Thats the reason i suggested to showcase Arjun minus classified systems in Arm shows and get orders from abroad and once more orders are there, the cost of per tank will also come down and then it may look lucerative to IA.

    Plus Govt can bear the cost of R&D in Arjun and can give these tanks to IA at subsidized rates.
     
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    India cannot supply these tanks to any other country for at least a decade
    cause of the manufacture time and orders by the IA at hand.

    Besides, Arjuns being heavy have a disadvantage in Hilly terrains
    of Kashmir and Muddy terrains of Pujab and Gujrat.

    Arjuns are only suited for Rajasthan terrain and some regions of Gujrat and Punjab
    so IA in some what right in its case for T-90s

    also, the Arjun tank cost does not include the R&D costs
    but only building costs

    And all R&D costs is borne by the GOI by default.

    The concept of Mass production that you emphasis soo much does not
    hold good for modern weapons system that are hi-tech and time consuming to build.

    These things cannot be built in a assembly line, else other western nations would
    have already been doing that
     
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    I think GoB should also take their attention to T-90.
     
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    i would go for the
    T-90s , cost effective,
    it cant be way worse than Arjun!
     
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    I read it takes 6 months to build one tank and they are made in batches of 25. the idea of mass production is to set an environment where in we can produce say 50-100 tanks in one go. If that environment is set and lets suppose, the present orders are delivered in say next 2-3 years, then the same facility can be used for producing something else for example ICU or advancd weaponery.

    Idea is to set up production facilities at different locations so that all the facilities compete with each other and because of this competition we can expect higher productivity, reduced costs.

    DRDO can then concentrate on developing more advanced versions of these equipments without the worry since the production mechanism is already in place
     
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    worst ??? T-90s are no match for arjun,
    i guess you have been listening to your military a bit too much :laugh:
     
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    India needs only limited number of Arjuns
    why waste time and money, even US produced Abraham's in batches of 25 as well

    You need to study some more about the military production processes
     
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