Second Scorpene class submarine to be launched on January 12

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  1. ranadd
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    I do not have to make sure you believe me. What I saw, I tell.

    I call Arihant as S1. The internal name is not S1 or S2 or Arihant.

    S2 or Arindhaman, IS a bigger hull. Wait till this year end or next year to confirm yourself. Again, Loads of the numbers to do with the reactor and related was different. It was not same as Arihant. I cannot comment more. Please feel free to think i am lying, trolling etc.

    That hull was more or so retained with few differences for the follow on ships. Last I checked, there are 3.

    Where I picked up the information is not your concern. (You do get that I cannot say, R8?)

    Your premise that this is not feasible itself is wrong. IN did the same with their ship building. The information is available in open domain.
     
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    A few examples of what you mean by this? Which class of IN surface ships is it where one ship is largely different from the other?
     
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    I would like you to go start with Indian Navy's first ships. The Frigates. How it was conceived, designed, modified and India ended up designing the carrier.

    Note: I used both conceived and designed. Not just designed.

    Note2: You are free to say that this is not same as building boomers.

    Note3: When I say first, I say first of our own.
     
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    Problem is, this type of radical design changes between sister ships presents both the shipbuilding yard and the Navy with serious challenges wrt construction, planning, trials, crew training, operation & repair/overhaul. Is it any wonder that such practices were dropped by most major shipbuilders that set out to make more than 2 ships of a class?

    P-16, P-16A, P-17, P-25, P-25A, P-15, and P-15A. All classes follow this rule and the hull/superstructure design does not change between sister ships.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_class

    Furthermore - the Arihant isn't entirely an Indian design to begin with. Back when the ATV project was starting, there was no Indian design agency with the expertise of coming up with a workable SSK model, forget N-sub. Even as of today, there still isn't an established expertise in submarine-design. Our future SSBN (call it S5 or Avinash or whatever) will be derived from Soviet/Russian designs as well. SSN design will come from either a Russian or French source. So will much of the construction expertise.
     
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    Here, Your logic is correct.

    However, on topic you are not.

    That being said, the highlighted part. Why don't you go back and read my comments once more. I may have already given you bit information there.
     
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    What randd is saying is probably true. Even I have read India has used 150mwe reactor for operational subs. So S1 is experimental sub with 80mwe reactor with 4 tubes, while operational S2 Arihant s3 aridhaman are bigger with 8 tubes and 150mwe reactor.
     
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    More pics from the ceremony.

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    At the ceremony.

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    Another beautiful shot.

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    I was at first like , there's a Kolkata class destroyer too. Then I realised , holy Fcuk , that's a P15B.
     
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    Nothing to do with leak. Navy is waiting for 'strategic clause ' to finalise. Only after that they can release RFI.
     
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    INS KHANDERI LAUNCHED

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