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Shut Indian missions in Afghanistan: Pakistan Army chief

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  1. Osiris

    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    TORONTO: Pakistan Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, whose forces sponsor a large-scale guerrilla war through Afghan proxies to keep New Delhi out of Afghanistan, wants Indian consulates in the war-torn country to be closed, says a Canadian diplomat and former deputy head of the UN mission in Kabul.

    Chris Alexander, who was Canada's ambassador in Kabul from 2003 to 2005 and later deputy of the UN mission until 2009, said General Kayani is calling the shots on Afghanistan and prepared to support suicide attacks in Afghanistan's cities.

    The Pakistani general has even told President Hamid Karzai that he can broker a peace deal with the Taliban - only if Indian consulates in Afghanistan are closed.

    Writing in the Globe and Mail under the title 'The huge scale of Pakistan's complicity', Alexander said: "The Pakistan army under General Kayani is sponsoring a large-scale, covert guerrilla war through Afghan proxies - whose strongholds in Balochistan and Waziristan are flourishing. Their mission in Afghanistan is to keep Pashtun nationalism down, India out and Mr. Karzai weak."

    "The principal drivers of violence are no longer, if they ever were, inside Afghanistan... ISI is the main driver of the conflict... General Kayani and others will deny complicity. But as the WikiLeaks material demonstrates, their heavy-handed involvement is now obvious at all levels," the Canadian diplomat said.

    Because of this policy, he said "reconciliation has failed to get off the ground: the Pakistan-based Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan - the official name for the Taliban and its allies - clearly prefer to fight".

    Without Pakistani military support, "the Islamic Emirate's combat units would collapse like a house of cards. Peace and reconciliation would prosper", he said.

    Giving many examples of how General Kayani controls the principal drivers of the Afghan violence, the Canadian diplomat said: "First, in February, Pakistan's security forces began arresting a dozen or so Taliban leaders - whose presence on their soil they had always noisily denied - presumably because these insurgent commanders had shown genuine, independent interest in reconciliation.

    "Second, the chief of Pakistan's army staff, General Ashfaq Kayani, this year once again successfully resisted US pressure to launch military operations in Balochistan and North Waziristan, where the Islamic Emirate is based.

    "Third, Gen Kayani told Mr. Karzai this spring that the condition for peace in Afghanistan would be the closing of several Indian consulates, while offering to broker deals with Islamic Emirate leaders, whom he considers a 'strategic asset'.

    "Fourth, Gen Kayani blithely told a Washington audience that he remained wedded to 'strategic depth' - that is, to making Afghanistan the kind of proprietary hinterland for Pakistan, free of Indian or other outside influence, which it was from 1992 to 2001."

    He said the Pakistan army's interference in Afghanistan violates the UN Charter and poses a threat to world peace. "It deserves serious discussion in multilateral forums, including the UN."

    Shut Indian missions in Afghanistan: Pakistan Army chief - India - The Times of India
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    and who asked of their permission:cool:
     
  3. booo

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    this is funny, if they go and tell this with US then US will ask them to shut ISI :D
     
  4. Osiris

    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    now he is cryani
     
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    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Now India won't back out at any cost. Afghanistan will become the new proving ground for India and Pakistan. They both will battle each other out for Afghanistan.

    If India is able to create an influence powerful enough to drive Pakistani interference away from Afghanistan, it would be a disaster for Pakistan and it might be the end of Terrorism itself.

    Afghanistan is a very important region, not for minerals or oil, but to decide the fate of terrorism and Pakistan itself. With support lost in all of its neighbors, Pakistan might give up on the idea of terrorism.
     
  6. BlueOval

    BlueOval Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Wanting and getting are two different things.....Pakistan wants to finish India ...but can they do that....they wanted to bleed India with 1000 cuts...but the one who bleeds it name is Pakistan.

    Lets see what becomes of Kiyani's latest wet dream.
     
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    Arjun MBT Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Please Keep India Out of Afghanistan
     
  8. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I don't think we should underestimate Kayani, he is unlikely to mellow down from his anti-India stand,
    He was the head of the ISI, when 26/11 was being planned.
     
  9. Desi Jatt

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    India's presence is certainly a big pain for pakistan...it's worst enemy present in their backyard, so its bquite obvious for them to panic..but this has gone too far...the army chief is now behaving like a kid asking US to get India out. whatever it is, we should never be too easy on this..they will use all their resources and their cunning ways to get India out of there. it will be very very interesting, the entire develoopment.
     
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    prototype Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    well but the negative side is Afghan can really prove a bloody ground for India,ISI is not going to sit quite,it with taliban will make matter little complicated for the Indian personals stationed there
     
  11. MoodyBlues

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    If India strengthens her foot hold in Afghanistan then Pakistan will be surrounded by hostile forces on both sides. This is a strategic nightmare for Pakistan. So they will go to any length to push India out of Afghanistan. I think this is exactly what they did when USSR invaded Afghanistan. This is all expected.

    I believe in the saying - "Attack is the best form of defense". We should engage these terrorists at Af-Pak border. We should take the fight to their door steps. That will keep them engaged there rather sneak into Indian mainland and bomb our homes. And its also our moral responsibility to help Afghans - our good old kabuliwala. So we need to stay tight in Afghanistan.

    Respectfully,

    -Moody
     
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    ya keep dreaming.
     
  13. chachachoudhary

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    If we need to really do something long term in A'nistan, then we must find a trusted partner. It is not possible to engage a'nistan without a partner.

    It can be Iran or Israel or Russia depending on our diplomacy. If and when US and NATO leaves a'nistan, it is going to be a "hell on earth".

    Our best policy at the moment should be wait and watch and refrain from investing heavily in a'nistan, both money and manpower.
     
  14. Desi Jatt

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    sticking in afghanistan is certainly not easy...russians ,NATO and pakistani army has faced it....unless we are too sure, there is no need to invest too heavily...whatever has been done so far, has got us in the good boks of afghanistan...for further, we certainly have to wait and see...it depends on what US decides....if they plan to stay there..its better for us.
     
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    What does Kayani think of himself who is he to tell us to shut our mission's in Afghanistan on the contrary being the leader of the greatest terrorist army in the world he should shut himself in a room for rest of his life.:mad:

    MOD EDIT: Keep the thread clean.
     
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