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SIBERIA TO SEPARATE FROM RUSSIA AND BECOME PART OF USA.

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by Averageamerican, Dec 4, 2015.

  1. Zeus_@21

    Zeus_@21 Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Sure, the same computer tells us a different story. In 1971, USA was supporting the mass murderers and wahabi terrorists against the Union of India. While Russia was standing firm with us. Your so called democratic empire wanted to topple a reasonable and tolerant leader from Syria for letting in the extremists have a blood bath. The same USA left Iraq in chaos.

    Hence, USA is the last country for India to rely on. It is just business between me and you, nothing else.
     
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  2. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Mean time Russia is selling more advanced weapons to Pakistan an China then they are India.
     
  3. somedude

    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

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    It's actually a criminal offense in Russian law to talk about separatism. Here's a link about it that is from a pro-government Russian propaganda outlet, so you know it's not something they invented to make Russia look bad:
    Putin Signs Law Punishing Separatism with Jail

    These people talking in the press about their desire to secede, if they actually exist, will be fined and jailed.

    If Assad was reasonable and tolerant, he would have handled the Arab Spring in Syria the same way the king of Jordan did: promise a few reforms, send some money to help the people with the biggest problems (the Arab Spring in Syria was triggered by a quasi-famine situation coming from several years of drought, ruining a lot of farmers in the back country). The bloodbath is on Assad's conscience; he decided to send in the army to crush dissent and this turned demonstrations and riots into civil war.

    Daesh arrived in Syria because Assad had plunged his country into chaos; they were in Iraq before and they were slowly getting crushed, thanks to Assad losing control of his territory through his bullheadedness, they managed to conquer new land and this gave them a big propaganda boost, allowing them to attract so many recruits that they could start seizing land in both Iraq and Syria at once.
     
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  4. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    And US are selling F-16 to Pakistan.
     
  5. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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  6. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Texas secessionists launch petition drive for vote to break away
    SAN ANTONIO, Texas | By Jim Forsyth

    SAN ANTONIO, Texas A group called the Texas Nationalist Movement fanned out to 31 cities across Texas this weekend trying to gather the 75,000 signatures they say they need to get the question of the state's secession from the United States on the primary ballot next spring.
    Texas is one of only two U.S. states, the other being Hawaii, that were once internationally recognized sovereign nations, with diplomatic ties to other countries. Although legal experts said it would be unconstitutional for Texas to break away via a primary vote, there is still a spirit of Texas independence among many in the Lone Star State.
    "What we are seeing, over and over, is this complete disconnect between the people of Texas, what they want, and what is going on in Washington, D.C.," TNM President Daniel Miller told Reuters.
    "The people of Texas don't have anything against the United States, they are just tired of being governed by bureaucrats we didn't elect pushing programs we don't want."
    He compared Texas to Scotland, which narrowly defeated a proposal to secede from the United Kingdom last year, and Catalonia, which is pushing to hold a vote on independence from Spain this year.
    "We are living in the era of the right of political self-determination," Miller said.
    But there is one rather big problem, according to T. Gerald Treece, a professor at South Texas College of Law in Houston and an expert on Constitutional Law.
    "That problem is the Civil War," Treece said. "When Texas and the other Southern states were re-admitted, each of them made a solemn promise that they would never leave the Union again."
    Treece said there are some legislative options available to the Texas Nationalist Movement, short of another civil war.
    "You have to have the Texas Legislature initiate a request, and then you have to have the U.S. Congress approve it, and then it could happen," he said, adding that with 'two sovereigns involved,' both would have to give their assent.
    Many states have discussed leaving the Union over the last century, but the talk has been louder in Texas, with some Republicans, including former Governor Rick Perry, floating the idea of secession.
    Texas would certainly have the clout to become influential on the world stage as an independent nation, with a $1.4 trillion-a year-economy, about the same size as South Korea's.

    (Editing by Jon Herkovitz and Phil Berlowitz)

    Read more at Reutershttp://Texas secessionists launch petition drive for vote to break away| Reuters
     
  7. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The Conch Republic (República de la Concha) is a micronation declared as a tongue-in-cheek secession of the city of Key West, Florida, from the United States on April 23, 1982. It has been maintained as a tourism booster for the city since. Since then, the term "Conch Republic" has been expanded to refer to "all of the Florida Keys, or, that geographic apportionment of land that falls within the legally defined boundaries of Monroe County, Florida, northward to 'Skeeter's Last Chance Saloon' in Florida City, Dade County, Florida, with Key West as the nation's capital and all territories north of Key West being referred to as 'The Northern Territories'".[4]

    While the protest that sparked the creation of the Conch Republic (and others since then) have been described by some as "tongue-in-cheek," they were motivated by frustrations over genuine concerns. The original protest event was motivated by a U.S. Border Patrol roadblock and checkpoint that greatly inconvenienced residents and tourists.

    The Conch Republic celebrates Independence Day every April 23 as part of a week-long festival of activities involving numerous businesses in Key West. The organization — a "Sovereign State of Mind", seeking only to bring more "Humor, Warmth and Respect" to a world in sore need of all three according to its Secretary General, Peter Anderson — is a key tourism booster for the area.[citation
     
  8. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina’s secession has over 115,000 signatures!
    Submitted by IWB, on June 26th, 2015

    Despite the Governor Haley’s new position on the Confederate Flag, members of South Carolinas House of Representatives believes the flag represents the culture of South Carolina and should not be removed because some people do not like to see it. A petition has started within the House of Representatives for the state to secede from the United States if the confederate flag is removed. Those who defend the flag, including the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a social and political group in the South, insist the flag is a symbol of the state’s past and no longer carries the racist meaning
    According to Leland Summers, Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans,“There is absolutely no link between the Charleston massacre and the Confederate Memorial Banner. Don’t try to create one. The petition for South Carolina’s secession from the United States already has over 115,000 signatures since Haley’s announcement earlier today.”
    https://newswatch33.com/news/south-carolina-threatens-to-secede-from-the-union-if-confederate-flag-is-removed
     
  9. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    they tried that once before, didn't work out so good.
     
  10. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Perhaps they want their revenge?
     
  11. ricky123

    ricky123 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I love how AverageAmerican is able to Troll and you all fall in his Trap :dance3::coffee:
     
  12. BMD

    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Yeah, and Alaska will join Russia.
     
  13. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Russia will give up Siberia for Western Europe. Win-win. :biggthumpup:
     
  14. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Russia is a third world economy There is no consumer product except vodka and caviar you’d buy from that country. They make nothing. They have a hunter-gatherer economy, which is to say they are primitives. They extract things, including eggs from fish for caviar. It’s a simple extraction industry, and it’s extremely vulnerable there for to the sway of one price: the price of oil and it’s just devastating Russia.
     
  15. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I agree that Russia is worst than Sudan but where is America? You guys have gone silly calling a terror attack as work place related act. You guys have a debt which is much higher than your GDP and yet you call yourself the best economy. This bubble is going to burst much sooner than you think. Just remember 1929. Today you can get a woman in Greece for $2 and in America day is not far when American women will be selling themselves for cents.
     

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