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SLBMs the ultimate deterrent.

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Ved Mishra, Jul 5, 2011.

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  1. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Hi, all are invited to share their views on the submarine launched ballistic and cruise missiles currently deployed and in development.
     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Currently there are 5 countries who have the capability of launching SLBMs viz, US,Russia,UK,France and China.

    US - TridentII D5 Intercontinental SLBMs on Ohio class SSBNs.
    UK - TridentII D5 Intercontinental SLBMs on Vanguard class SSBNs.
    Russia - Sineva Intercontinental SLBMs on Typhoon class SSBN. Bulava Inter continental SLBM under enhanced readiness on Yuri Dolgoruky class SSBN.
    France - M45 and M51 Intercontinental SLBMs on Triomphant class SSBN.
    China - JL1 and JL2 Intercontinental SLBMs on type 094 Jin class SSBN

    India is knocking at the doors of this exclusive club with
    India - K4, K15 Intermediate range SLBMs on Arihant class SSBNs.:victory:
     
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    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    By the induction of Arihant class SSBNs india will have its nuclear triad.Do you guys know the developmental status of K4, K15 SLBMs?
     
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    K-15 Under Production

    K-4 Was Tested Successfuly in Feb according to a DRDO Mag , will be tested once again soon - will be Operationalized by 2016 -17
     
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    Mr.Ryu Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Crash History of SLBM



    Indian K-15

     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    K 15 (Sagarika) has been succesfully tested at its range of 750 kms thrice. IN with DRDO is in the process of developing the technology to launch them from pontoons inside the submarine. The same will be operationalised in the INS Arihant . K4 is supposed to be of the range of 2500- 3000 kms. Once it is tested it will be operationalised on the followup subs if Arihant.
     
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    In my opinion, an SLBM is only half as effective if the vehicle delivering it can fire without being detected. As of now I'm not entirely sure if the Arihant class boomers are effective at concealing acoustic signatures. We should be aiming to be at the level of an Ohio SSBN, now that is something the developers got right, with her acoustic signature being less than the background noise of the ocean, that is something to be truly feared.
     
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    Can any body tell me what is this acoustic signatures ..........
     
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    Noise Emissions By Ships due to Various Reasons
     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Till date there is no information on the acoustic signatures as such regarding any submarine. It tends to differ due to various reasons like salinity, depth, temperature and backround noise. New subs use anachoic tiles to suppress sound and undergo extensive desalination and demagnetisation at ports.

    As sound is the only medium to track a sub under water very high quality active and passive sonar technologies are being evolved.

    If the launch platform is 3000-8000 kms away from the enemy coast that too under water with speed in excess of 25 knots its highly impossible to track it down and hunt it. This is why the SSBNs are infact the peacemakers and were the prime weapon of deterrance during the cold war between USSR and USA. They were both convinced about MAD and hence no serious confrontation took place.
     
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    ^^^exactly...Pakistan needs them too,to make sure that both India and Pakistan don't go for another war...
     
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    Russia successfully launched its Bulava missile from the brand new fourth-generation Yuri Dolgoruky nuclear sub deployed in the White Sea on June 28. The Bulava is a submarine-launched ballistic missile able to carry up to 10 hypersonic, individually guided, maneuverable warheads with a low trajectory.

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    The 15th launch succeeded - the warheads hit the Kura test ground in Far Eastern Kamchatka, Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov reports

    "For the first time the test launch has been carried out from a shaft missile, the Yuri Dolgoruky sub, whose crew showed great skill and professionalism."

    The successful launch means that all errors, which caused the previous attempts to fail, were removed. Still, the missile has to face several tests before it goes to the troops, the editor of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko says



    Fourteen launches have failed but the situation got better under tighter control, which is positive. It’s important that the launch was carried out from the Yuri Dolgoruky which means that the missile and the cruiser work together. Still, we need 4-5 launches, including one with the weapon’s maximum range to a target in the Pacific and one with a full or partial combat load .

    The tests will continue till late 2011 and will be voerseen supervised by a government commission that will be deployed on board the cruiser.

    IT HAS A RANGE OF 8000+ KM
     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Peacemakers is whatthey are. No matter what is the difference between you and your enemy, he can not dare to attack you if you possess SLBMs. Russia is developing Bulava from its predecessor Sineva. Just consider this...
    One SSBN can carry 12-18 SLBMs. Easc SLBM has 10 warheads which can independently strike their targets (Called MIRVs).That means each submarine is carrying 120 to 180 higly enriched Uranium warheads. US has about say 20 SSBNS. That makes 20*180=3600 warheads in their SSBNs alone. Same may go for Russia although they may have only 4-5 active SSBNs. Still they have 5*16*10=800 nuclear warheads in their SSBNs. How could these countries ever go to war??
    India has to make atleast three SSBNs with 12 launchers and with each SLBM having 5 MIRVs. However India is yet far from having an intercontinental range SLBM to arm their SSBN with. Once you have it its cold war started between India and China.
     
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    nope.......in case of pakistan they still have first use policy.....its much more relevant in case of india as it follows a nofirst use policy towards a neighbour which have declared first strike an option and add to that; that india have to face china also ....regards
     
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    Absolutely correct. Once u have the SLBM capabilty on your SSBNs boomers escorted by hunter killers SSNs one can intimidate the enemy like no other weapon can. If India gets a 5000 Km range SLBM it will not be even necessary for our boomer to get out of Bay of Bengal to strike China. That is scary enough for China. You can visualise the situation that develops in such a scenario, MAD Mutually Assured Destruction. Thats why these SSBNs armed with SLBMs are called peacemakers. The ultimate peacemakers.
     
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