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Somalian pirates moving towards India: Coast Guard

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  1. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Somalian pirates have now started moving towards India and the government was investigating if they have any links with Pakistan-based terror groups, the Indian Coast Guard (ICG) said.

    ICG Director General Anil Chopra said the pirates, now operating eastwards from their country, posed a threat to all the merchant vessels passing through the high seas between India and the Maldives.

    "When piracy is (happening) so close to India, there would be speculation about any such linkages (between them and Pakistan-based groups). Intelligence agencies are investigating all the people who are captured to establish if there is connection between them," he told reporters.

    The ICG chief was addressing a press conference on the eve of the 34th Coast Guard foundation day.

    The 15 Somalians apprehended from a sunken pirate mothership near Lakshadweep on January 28 are also being interrogated by the agencies concerned in Mumbai.

    Chopra said due to increased presence of navies from around the world in the Gulf Of Aden, pirates have extended their area of operation and have started moving eastwards.

    "The only place from Africa in that direction is India and the most western part of India is Lakshadweep. They don't pose any threat to India in particular but against all merchant ships of all nations," he added.

    The ICG chief said to thwart any piracy attempts, the Coast Guard along with the Navy has launched the Operation

    Island Watch along the Lakshadweep Islands.

    As part of these operations last week, a Naval Fast Attack Craft (FAC) sunk a pirate mothership named 'Prantalay' 75 miles off Lakshadweep saving the 20-member crew of the hijacked vessel on-board and arrested 15 pirates from it.

    In the recent past, activities of pirates around Lakshadweep have increased and they were also successful in hijacking a Bangladeshi-flagged merchant vessel about 90 nautical miles off Kochi and 80 nautical miles off Minicoy.

    As part of its efforts to counter piracy and enhance coastal security, last month a Coast Guard district headquarters was commissioned in Kavaratti along with a station in Minicoy, both in the Lakshadweep Islands.

    Due to this spurt in pirate activity, the Navy had deployed its warships along with Coast Guard vessels in the central Arabian sea.

    India has also been deploying its frigates and destroyers in the Gulf of Aden since November 2008 and maintains its presence in the troubled waters since then.

    Somalian pirates moving towards India: Coast Guard
     
  2. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    It will be nice target practice for IN.
     
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  3. Ganimi kawa

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    Bring it On, Baby! :2GUNS: :sniper:


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  4. Capt.Popeye

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    This move by the Pirates was inevitable. The heat around the Somali Coast by the various International forces was being turned on to some-what unbearable limits. Secondly, over the years; the Pirates have substantially increased their resources financially (through ransoms) and materially (through hijacked craft) to extend their sphere of operations.

    Now actually the job of preventing attacks on Merchant Ships has got far more difficult in the light of this new development.
    From the Horn of Africa to the Eight Degree Channel between Lakshadweep and Maldives is the predominant route taken by ships on the Europe/Mid East and Far East/S.E. Asia/Australia route. And it is approx 1200 n.m. of lonely seas. Then there is the Mid East to East Africa/South Africa route as well to attract the Pirates.
    Policing this area is really difficult. Even with Air-Surveillance! Most of the craft being used by the Pirates now are wooden trawlers and FRP skiffs. Not very easy to see visually and poor radar targets, especially if the seas are even slightly choppy which creates clutter on radar screens.

    The Navy and Coast Guard ships will really have their work cut out for them.
     
  5. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Heck, Why not have the pakistani join in and turn it into a sport.
     
  6. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Good for the environment & our economy...we now don't have to spend money sending our warships all the way to the gulf of aden...they'll come to us instead- so much easier....:no:
     
  7. Tshering22

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    Unlikely, I would say paaji. Because if you notice, IN is not as ruthless as Russian naval commandos and will most likely prefer apprehending and jailing these pirates rather than the treatment Russian commandos gave them by throwing them into the water and shooting them like sitting ducks with their own AKs.

    To be frank, I am uneasy about this new development of more and more Somalis coming into our territory through this piracy issue, owing to the corrupt and lax government regulations on terrorism/counter-piracy etc as well as having 2 dozen problems of our own.

    IN would never sink a ship and let the pirates drown with it if they pretend to have surrendered for surviving. This, is the worrying factor. In fact, our military is forced to be ethical with terrorists and "surrendered" pirates rather than brutally kill them and reduce Mother Earth's burden.
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  8. Tshering22

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    Which is why it is essential that we turn Lakshadweep's couple of islands into small military bases to operate hunter-killer drones to target and obliterate these trawlers rather than wasting time on arresting them. Even if the drones have to be armed with unguided multiple rockets, it is a cheap bargain considering that they are non-guided and will cost little rather than operating an entire frigate/destroyer and then deploy MARCOs using either helicopters or fast inflatable rafts and needlessly adding to operational costs.

    If one carefully looks via Google Earth, we can find a few small islets having firm ground that are uninhabited that spread well into the Eight Degree Channel. These can be converted into small bases only to operate say, Rustom-Hs/Herons armed variants by next year as UAVs unarmed are easy targets. Though both Herons and Rustom-Hs are MALE UAVs, analysts have speculated that they can be lightly armed with say 2-4 weapon bays. That's more than enough to carry multiple rocket pods or even light modified ATGMs like LAHATs to target trawlers.

    Apprehending and feeding these no-gooders in our jails is a waste of our money. We already have a lot of terrorists to feed in J&K and NE.
     
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    This is why I love Russia
     
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    Going by the opinions being expressed by some posters so far, GoI/IN/ICG seems to have 2 options to deal with intercepted/apprehended Pirates.
    1. Arrest them and subject them to due process of Law.
    2. Use the so-called "Russian method" and just put some bullets through them and then adios amigo!

    Option 1 is being exercised, because it is the option that comes easily to a Democratic country with a rule of law, which India is. While it may seem to be a tedious and even expensive option; it is the better option because it has diplomatic ramifications. One logical fallout of this will be that the International Community will in fact slowly but surely gravitate to giving India a predominant role in the region and the other powers seeking to muscle (you know who) in will not be given any legitimate role to operate freely. On a practical level, one future scenario will be that the G-5 (less 1) will formally anoint India as the leading sea-power in the region and will even offer to support and sustain that role. That will quite a diplomatic feat with other benefits.
    BTW, post the "Alondra Rainbow" incident in 1999, Japan suggested that India be given the leading role in ensuring maritime security in IOR and started funding the ICG missions outside the Mallacca Straits.

    Of course; its worth recalling how India got the Civil Nuclear Deal and NSG waiver, while a "major non-NATO ally" is screaming itself hoarse for the same lollipop.

    Having a positive image on the International stage matters.
     
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  11. Tshering22

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  12. Capt.Popeye

    Capt.Popeye Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    ^^^
    @ Tshering22
    First of all you seem to have bashed up Royan for nothing.
    Secondly you are a little mixed up about these Pirates. Most; if not all of their 'hijacks' have taken place solely to extort ransom for ships and the cargo on board. They are not interested in the cargo and the crew are no use to them except as bargaining chips. That is the essential difference between these Pirates and Pirates say in S.E. Asia e.g. the "Alondra Rainbow" affair. Suggest you research the internet a little more thoroughly to understand the Somali Piracy scenario. Check out IMB (International Maritime Bureau) and UKMTO among other orgn. sites.

    These 'Charlies' use their weapons which are AKs, LMGs and the odd RPG launcher to intimidate passing merchant ships (usually the smaller, slower ships and/or ship's with low freeboard- height of deck above the sea). Their Skiffs fitted with 1 or 2 powerful outboard engines do a max. speed of 20-22 knots. So Ships with speeds of less than 16-18 knots are vulnerable. Then the pirates come alongside and with grapnels and ropes board the vessel concerned, overpower the crews and divert the ship towards the Somali coast. As they get closer to the coast, they get the crew to transmit a ransom demand by radio/SATCOM to the ship's owner. Then anchor the ship off the coast and wait out to get the ransom money delivered through intermediaries.
    The closest the pirates came to being interested in the cargo was in the case of a Ukrainian owned ship M.V.Faina which had a cargo T-72 tanks, Anti-Aircraft guns, Ammo. and RPGs. That ship and its cargo was shady in the first place (the cargo belonged to an Israeli gun-runner).

    Wilful attacks on the crew to kill or cause casualties are yet rare. Most casualties in fact have taken place during rescue attempts.

    Just summarised the situation above. Have some familiarity with the waters, the nature of ops and the M.O. of these 'Charlies' over the last 4/5 years. Have even seen some of them with my eyes.

    And yes, these guys are the subject of some UN resolutions too, in which they have been labelled "Pirates" not "Terrorists"; so far.

    p.s. You seem to be a liitle unfamiliar with Laws, more so, International and Maritime Laws.
     
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  13. CONNAN

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    i think our navy instead of pounding those eco friendly islands on our west cost should use these pirates as target practice :partay:
     
  14. Tshering22

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    Haha! Bhai, I am not bashing anyone. Royan is as much welcome to tell me if he is hurt. In fact I don't mean to be angry at all in my post. I know about Pirates and they want bargaining chips I know that. The reason why I am asking for aggressive stand against them is because they are unpredictable. If there are 200 hostages, they could kill 4-5 and still retain a strong bargaining chip.

    I know they don't want to hurt in general but here we are dealing with outlaws and don't want to risk an uncertain casualty rate.

    That's all. Just concern for Indian lives. We already have a lot of casualties from abnormal anti-social activities like terrorism. Don't want to take chance. Hence the recommendation. But thanks for info anyways. I will check. :tup:
     
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