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Sonia should be quizzed about 2G scam, CVC row

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by DaRk KnIght, Mar 4, 2011.

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  1. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The assumption that Sonia Gandhi can do no wrong has to be challenged by the public, the media and the political class

    Sonia Gandhi can do no wrong.


    That seems to be the basic assumption in the current debate on the various controversial decisions taken by the government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh since it was formed after the elections of 2009.

    These include decisions related to the questionable functioning of the ministry of telecommunications or the wrongful appointment of someone facing a probe to the post of the chief vigilance commissioner.

    In all the debates in public -- whether in the media or by political parties -- the focus has been on the role of the prime minister, other concerned ministers and bureaucrats. I watched with interest the debate on various TV channels about the adverse judgment of a bench of the Supreme Court in the case regarding the procedure followed for the appointment of PJ Thomas as the chief vigilance commissioner.

    The eminent people who participated in the debates, as well as the TV anchors, focussed only on the role of the various personalities in the government from the prime minister downwards.

    Not one of them mentioned even in passing the possible role of Sonia Gandhi -- as the leader of Congress party -- in these controversial decisions. Even the spokespersons of opposition parties, including the Bharatiya Janata Party, did not mention her name in their interventions.

    Does this mean all these controversial decisions were taken only by the government, with the Congress leadership playing no role in it? Any objective analyst would find it difficult to accept this.

    We have been subjected to a peculiar system of governance since 2004 where real power seems to be wielded by Sonia Gandhi in her capacity as the head of the Congress party.

    There has been an unseen but unquestioned power which has been exercising a compulsive influence on decision-making in important matters. This compulsive influence is quite evident in the case of the appointment of the chief vigilance commissioner.

    Whether in matters related to his appointment or the defence of his appointment before the Supreme Court, everyone from the prime minister downwards has been acting as if they were doing so at the instance of an invisible force that could not be resisted. Such an invisible force could be only that of Sonia Gandhi.

    She has been conducting herself as a neutral, disinterested bystander, who had nothing to do with any of these decisions. She has not spoken on any of these decisions in any great detail, nor has she been questioned.

    Everyone, including the media and even the opposition, has been behaving as if she is like the British monarch, above and beyond all controversies. Hence, she cannot be questioned about her role in them.

    If one has to find out the real truth behind the recent controversies, it is as important to probe her role in them as it is to go into the role of others. The assumption that Sonia Gandhi can do no wrong has to be challenged by the public, the media and the political class.

    She must be made to face the fire of criticism and questioning like any other leader. She should no longer be treated as if she is a morally superior person whose good faith and integrity have to be implicitly accepted.

    It is important for the Joint Parliamentary Committee -- now being constituted to probe the 2G scam -- to summon her and question her in detail about the various controversies. It is equally important for her role in decision-making to be debated in Parliament, in the media and elsewhere. She should herself welcome a greater public focus on her role and influence in decision-making.

    Sonia should be quizzed about 2G scam, CVC row - Rediff.com News
     
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    Welcome 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Yes she Should be Quizzed....After all she a head of Corruption Team (UPA).
     
  3. Barney Stinson

    Barney Stinson 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Whether Sonia G was involved or not is anyone's guess but Nobody would dare even take her name let alone question her that is for sure
     
  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    There's a reason why that doesn't happen. It keeps the decorum of the house. Something the BJP would rather not have. Compare it to bangladesh where no such decorum is observed and you'll see just how low the culture can stoop. That means no limits. I remember one of the ladies (hasina or zia, don't remember) was in power and her husband's legacy was broght to question by a judge. She immedeately retailated and questioned the character of the judge, among other things. The congress instinctively stays away from ABVP though it routinely attacks advani, modi etc- they deserve it ABVP doesn't and that's the difference. Same courtesy should be extended to sonia, MMS etc. else pretty soon you'll find throwing mud at each other.
     
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    Akaal 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I didn't know the truth, whether Sonia should be questioned or not but Gandhi family has a criminal record as Allahbad High court holds Indira Gandhi culprit (420) of manupulating elections for personal gain.

    & this is not Bangladesh & here the govt. can do only one thing to save it against the hammer of Supreme court, the very same thing Indira did after losing the case.
     
  6. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Gandhi family also has a track recoord of having made more sacrifices than most others. Gradfather died on the job and both mother and son were assasinated for decisions that took in office. You can disagree with what they did and have an opinion that what they did was wrong but you have to agree that they died for decisions which they thought was good for the country. I can asssure you...it was VERY easy for the Gandhi's to dominate much more than the Hosni Mubaraks.
     
  7. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Apart from that nehru-Gandhi family has the worst record in managing the nation. 62, 84, bofors, CWG etc etc shows their sacrifice towards country.
     
  8. Bangalorean

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    I agree with you that the Gandhis could have established brutal dictatorship here, which they didn't do. And I respect the Gandhi family for that.

    I say this even though I am not a fan of the Gandhi family and I hold them responsible for many negative aspects of our country.
     
  9. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Ya right. And you think the bharatiya pansy party is the one to have done a better job. And through all these years they were in power because people elected them not like the sore losers of the pansy party who never get elected and are always seen making a noise in the opposition benches.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    They were ELECTED. And an ELECTED GOVERNMENT reflects the collective will of the people. All the policies were what the people of India wanted. Why blame only them? Why are you washing hands off the fact that THOSE DECISIONS WERE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE WANTED!!! If they weren't, the would not have been elected again and again and again. It's as simple as that.
     
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    In that case, why should we protest against any government action at all? Why do some people complain about corruption in today's government? Why do some people complain about NDA government's policies? All these people were, and are, elected, and elected government reflects the collective will. So let us stop complaining about anything the government does.

    That is a very silly argument.

    In the decades from early 1960s till late 1980s, India did hardly anything apart from producing children. The licence-permit raj and quasi-socialist policies institutionalized by the governments of those decades kept India backward and held it in chains. What do the people know? What we had was a massive illiterate population, and a middle class that had hardly any exposure and knowledge. They had constantly had it drummed into their heads that the government was everybody's mai-baap. Any innovation or ambition was frowned upon, and there were no opportunities to grow within the country. Is it any wonder that people who ran away abroad were considered the epitome of success in that society?

    If I become a politician tomorrow, and hypothetically, let us assume that I have unlimited flow of funds. I dole out a small amount to all the illiterate and poor folk in the constituency every month, along with sarees and booze. I do absolutely no work of significance, I just establish giant mines and keep extracting ore and exporting the ore to the West, and accumulate huge profits, living in ever greater luxury and collecting millions in Swiss banks. And of course, I keep doling out small change to the illiterate masses to keep my vote intact. I suppose years later, you would defend me saying that I was elected time and again, so I was acting as per the people's will!??!!

    You are committing the grave sin of whitewashing responsibility from the governments of the time. I give them credit where it is due. The green revolution, establishment of IITs and IIMs, 1971 war, Pokhran-I, and so many other things. But I also pin upon them, the responsibility for four wasted generations and the incredible waste of human potential. I blame them for the so-called "Hindu rate of growth".

    Simply saying that "they were elected, so they cannot be held accountable" is the worst thing you can possibly say! :sad:
     
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  12. Bangalorean

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    There was massive protest against liberalization in 1991. There were massive protests against computerization. There were lots of vested interests who wanted to keep a monopoly on things. And there were lot of irrational fears about Western MNCs coming in and buying over the country. The industrialist Bajaj and many others formed an association to lobby, petition and bribe the government NOT to liberalize. The governments of the time (PVNR/MMS combo) took bold decisions. It can be argued that the IMF forced us to reform, but in any case, they did take the steps that needed to be taken, vested interests notwithstanding.

    And look where it has taken us today.

    Point being, if you consider this a positive step by PVNR/MMS (which I am sure you do, no sane person will argue otherwise), it automatically implies that the steps taken by the past governments were negative and regressive at worst, and status-quoist at best
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    You don't get the crux of what I said. A government gets elected, it takes bad decisions and gets booted out in the next election. Point- We kept electing them so we didn't have a problem with those policies. THEY WERE NEVER ASKED TO GO OUT OF OFFICE SO THEIR POLICIES WERE LARGELY ACCEPTABLE TO THE INDIAN PEOPLE. If anything the selection of congress and the way they have been elected again and again in such stellar way means that their policies were generally what the people wanted. YOU can disagree but the people who elected them did't really think it's a big problem.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Your post is very naive. That's not how democracy works. Illiterate or not, people elect their government to their best judgment. There's no mandate in the constitution to elect only technocrats for economic positions. The government didn't follow those policies in thin air- THEY HAD PUBLISHED MANIFESTOS before elections indicating the policies they would implement. We elected those governments because we want those policies implemented. Yes... in a democracy THE PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THINGS...GOOD AND BAD
     
  15. Bangalorean

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    ^^ I certainly got the crux of what you said, but you did not get the crux of what I said. Answer this question which I put to you above:

    So, this politician above (me) should not be criticized because he was elected time and again. Is that your stance?
     
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