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Sonia should be quizzed about 2G scam, CVC row

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by DaRk KnIght, Mar 4, 2011.

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  1. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Maybe you can reflect that that's the sort of political risk that most governments try to avoid. Going against their manifestos and implementing radical reform will happen only in exceptional circumstances. Those demonstrations could have caused PVN the governement. He would usually acoid it but in this case had to do it.
     
  2. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Yes BJP did a better job. All secularists cry about MMS and economy but no one ever thought why there was no growth for 10 years after lib and suddenly when BJP came into power it started changing quickly.

    Pathetic troller you must have some GK. BJP is in power in more than 8 states while cheap secular party has no agenda in these states and they cry for sonia and Rahul. They are not in a position to even make noises :smokin:
     
  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Of course he should be...if he has gone against the law of the land he has to be criticized. And if, despite this behavior he is elected agian by the people, then IT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE!
     
  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's so sad you are pitching so much on BJP's success. I'll buy you hankeys when they're trounced in the next election. :yes4:
     
  5. Bangalorean

    Bangalorean Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    A government exists to give the best for its people. The people do not understand FDI, FII, Purchasing power, forex reserves, inflationary pressures, and all that jargon. In a country like India, certainly not. And in a country like India in the 1970s, not at all!!

    The Indian nation has the potential to grow at a rapid pace, as evinced in the previous decade, after we were finally unshackled. Even with terrible infrastructure, we grow at 9%. In the 1980s, would an average person ever imagine that India would be able to grow at this pace?

    The government of the first few decades after independence shackled India and did not allow the nation to perform as per potential. That is clear to anyone. I am not sure how you are whitewashing the governments of their basic responsibility.

    The people will not know that such growth and such improvement is possible. They do not have the requisite knowledge, they do not know.
     
  6. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    In that case you might have bought tons of hankeys after Bihar elections :lol:
     
  7. Bangalorean

    Bangalorean Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    So here's the problem.

    The illiterate, uneducated people think that this is the best they can get. The politician from their caste is giving them free booze, free sarees and some money. This is all we need to live. We don't need education, our kids need not go to school. Our politician will take care of our children like he is taking care of us. He will give them booze and sarees when they grow up.

    How will those people know that by liberalizing the economy and access to education, they can live a better life and move on to a different station in life? How can they imagine that their son can become a clerk in an office instead of doing manual labour, and that their grandson can become a software professional 30 years down the line?

    How can you blame the people? How can the people know?
     
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  8. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Then we don't need elections. You just put any goverment in place and ask them why 'they aren't giving us the best'. An election is a contest of viewpoints and people vote their particular viewpoints in. No one can question that choice unless the governments elected deviate from their promised paths later on. W Bengal kept voting in dinosaur like left government again and again and again for a good 20 years after liberalization. You think you can question that choice? Of course not.
     
  9. Bangalorean

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    ^^ We aren't going to agree on this. I cannot condone or forgive the governments of the 'wasted generations' for the state which they left India in, in the 1990s.

    If we take what you are saying in its precise form, even then I have a right to question the governments for "deviating from their promised paths". What were the slogans we heard from the politicians of those days about "Garibi", food, sanitation, water supply, and a million - nay, a billion other things?!? Did they stick to what they promised?

    If we go by exactness like that, then certainly the governments of those days should be hauled up and mercilessly castigated for not doing what they promised - again, and again and again.

    Even if you call the people stupid for voting the same persons again and again and lay the responsibility on their shoulders, that does not absolve the government.
     
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  10. Akaal

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    I participated in many blood donation camps & would like to believe that my blood has save many people's life. That by any means mean that If I tomorrow kill some one than no action would be taken against me . The sacrifice that Mahatma Gandhi made was for the nation and not because someone should use his sacrifice to score some points or some votes. If instead of using development as election issue someone tries to use the sacrifice of Mahatma Gandhi to get votes then this is known as "Auro ki chita pe apni rajnetic rooti sekna". If I could translate that properly to bake your bread on others death".

    For me sacrifice remains sacrifice, whether individual belong to one family or not its upto you to decide. Also devote some time to study sacrifice of Veer Savarkar & his brothers.
     
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    That even Britishers were not able to achieve.
    To maintain there rule even they have to use divide and rule policy & even they use to give lolly poops to Bhartiye people like
    -- would give you freedom after WW1
    -- would establish Simon commission as to see how much freedom is to be given
    -- would give you after ww2. blah blah blah

    As far as establishing dictatorship, Indira Gandhi tried for that too but the will of determined Bhartiye didn't let her dreams come true.
     
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    All the same, Nehru could have very easily made himself a dictator and made India a tinpot dictatorship. The fact that he let democracy take firm root in India and established a fair and free society, is a great thing in itself, considering the history of the world at that time. We must give him credit for it. Look at the number of third world nations getting independence during the subsequent years, and the number of dictatorships and civil wars that raged all around. Whatever you say about Nehru, he should get complete credit for making India a full fledged democracy, in spite of all India's problems.
     
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    It was Bofors guns that came to India's rescue when the dhoti-wearing incompetent PM was at helm, oblivious to the occupation of Indian territory by Pakistani forces.
     
  15. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    What a stupid and lame argument. If i Buy Su-30 MKI for $500mn then it is not going to affect the capabilities of MKI. Hope you got the point. And it was that Dhoti wearing PM who kicked the pakistani out when our cross wearing secular nun was jumping like anything. :smokin: :azn:
     
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