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'Sort Afghan mess or Russia will, Pakistan army told US': Pak source to The Telegraph

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by lca-fan, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. A_poster

    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Soviets were too merciful, but even they established some kind of order.
     
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    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Absolutely hilarious.

    Trump gonna sh!t his pants hearing this.
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    USA will not allow Russia and China to take over Afghanistan

    They will remain there for a very long time

    Russia's only concerns is ISIS

    But Russia cannot give any money to Afghans
    And neither they can put troops on the ground

    SO what do they bring to the table -- Nothing

    The weapons that India gives to Afghans are paid for by India and supplied by Russsia
     
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  6. YarS

    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Funny, comrade. Opinion of USA can worry only USA. We are not interested in it, you know. They have a dark past, and have no future.

    Their "gold" will transform in rubish soon, you know...


    We can gift them much more valuable thing. We can give them a life.
     
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  7. YarS

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  8. BlackOpsIndia

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    Why would we want a Shiva Temple in Kabul? This kind of ludicrous concept is suited and proposed only by you! WTF has a temple or church as to do with controlling Taliban or drugs????

    And one thing is for sure, Afghan govt. is many times more democratic than Russian govt and I am still trying to understand what that has to do with Temple, Church or Drugs? Are you implying Afghan govt. as a state producing drugs?

    You claim to know "Islamists" without even knowing the difference between a Wahabi, Salafi, Deobandi and other sects! Leave it, this region is far too complex for your black and white categorization and now I am getting a better understanding of how ill-trained Taliban made super power USSR retreat.

    How is being popular is related to commanding someone? Its their land, we can only advice, put measures that dont hurt us, rest is upon them. If they need drug money to fight Pakistan proxies they will do that, if Taliban need drug money to fight Afghanistan elected govt. they will do that. They are not going to listen from some dictation of Indian or Russian or Pakistan or American, its about need.


    There is a post by @VCheng above, read it. He sums it up so nicely. Pakistan cant do $hit in Afghanistan anymore, they cant do it when Afghanistan was much weaker now they are way too strong for Taliban. What Pakistan is doing is playing a blackmail card, they always do. They blackmail to give Kashmir to them otherwise face terrorism openly, or keep blackmailing the Afghanistan and US. So in this message, they are actually begging by playing Russian card. Russia at max can finance or arm Taliban but only upto an extent and for few years, as a result there will be more casualties in Afghanistan but dream of Taliban returning to power is long gone.

    Dont even dream Russia will be able to air strike Afghanistan at will to aid Taliban or it will yield any result but antagonise your long time allies North Alliance and India. The chance of direct interference of Russia in Afghanistan is next to zero and its not related to just ground conditions of Afghanistan but the condition of Russia too. Russian economy shrank to half, your largest buyer India and China are now importing less and China eating up cheaper orders of Russia you are slowly heading for meltdown like none other.

    You may hate west for whatever reason and the control media and no place to truth may lead you to believe things are well and Putin is in command but if you check numbers and the future outlook it is very grim for Russia. This is from a friend of Russia, not enemy, chances for survival are hard forget ruling Afghanistan, make your house in order first before another USSR happen.
     
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    Worked like this?

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    In same reasons that we build Temple of Michael , the Archangel in Grozniy. To show our superiority, to test Chechens did they really love us, to humiliate and humble Islamists. Every stupid Islamist in Chechnya now can see our superiority and humble himself.
    There two main ways to force enemy to fight. First - to attack something, that he can not relinquish (for ex - poppy fields for drug producers). Second - to show him target that is not acceptable to him not to attack (for ex. Christian or Pagan temple for Islamists).
     
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    Try building one in Kabul, will take 5 minutes to rage it to ground by a talibani suicide bomber along with many innocent Russians. Try saving your embassy first after attacking Taliban poppy field or northern alliance poppy fields. Boasting is good for morale but beyond a limit it becomes a tool with which enemy humiliate you everyday.
     
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    I hope Indian members read this very carefully . This is what Turko Afghan invaders subjected is to in the 800 odd years they ruled over us .

    More importantly this is what Pakistan wishes to subject us to .This is normally how recalcitrant people are pacified.

    Contrast what the Russians did in Chechnya to how the IA & CAPF's are battling terrorism & insurgency in J & K.
     
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    Sure. War was cost for us 1,5 thousands human lifes in year. Peace with drug-dealers cost near 8 thousands lifes in year. So, war is better.
     
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    Funnily he thinks that anyone who don't hate US is enemy of Russia.which infact is most illogical thing.
    It leaves even Russian allies/friends like India in a precarious situation.
     
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    Sure. Next turn we'll kill hundred of Talibs for one Russian, and will make next attempt to build. Turn one - kill every open enemy. Turn two - allow hidden enemies to show themselfes, then - kill them all.

    Ke-ke-ke. They will not himiliate us, if we will kill them first.
    We are not Communists now. We are Capitalists. We need free and safe trade route to India and Pakistan. How many Afgan's will die for it - does not matter.
     

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