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Stealth fighters vs Eurocanards

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picard, Oct 26, 2012.

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  1. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    The F-35 is a good aircraft, with helmet mounted sight and display, AIM-9X and EODAS will be as good as Eurofighter at within eyeball range and close combat.

    F-35 has 360 degrees full sphere situational awareness.


    At BVR stealth allows it to do two things Eurofighter can not do


    At BVR it can get closer to Eurofighter and remain undetected by captor, thus give a better chance to its AIM-120 to hit the Eurofighter by the virtue of being closer.

    True Eurofighter has supercruise but it needs to fire from farther distances otherwise the AIM-120 will hit it

    The other thing is V/STOL, F-35 has more deplyment flexibility than Eurofighter

    Now i will tell you if the casidian new anti-stealth radar works well then only F-22 might enjoy superiority over Eurofighter


    [​IMG]http://www.cassidian.com/en_US/web/guest/Passive%20%20radar%20from%20CASSIDIAN%20remains%20invisible
     
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  2. Picard

    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    Which aircraft has larger IR signature?

    Answer F-22.

    Which aircraft is heavier and has higher wing loading?

    Answer F-22.

    Which aircraft has larger drag when turning?

    Answer F22, courtesy of TVC.

    And which aircraft has larger IR signature?

    Answer F-22.

    Which aircraft has larger visual signature?

    Answer F-22.

    Which aircraft looses energy faster in turning fight?

    Answer F-22.

    I have heard about it, but F-35 illuminating Typhoon will always have to close to a rather unsafe distance from Typhoon in order to penetrate jamming.

    AESA radars are LPI by default, but Typhoon can detect and jam such radars.
     
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    MAFIAN GOD Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Dont you think that if we look from T/W ratio prospective then the reduced drag of any Stealth fighter is negated by the increased weight due to conformal weapon bay???
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    That's what I have said several times.
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    What if one of the F-22 detect fighters from 200+ kms and other head towards it silently from any direction.....and may be just 100 kms away??
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    F-22 might detect Typhoon from 200 km, but to launch it has to lock on Typhoon, and that is not an option at either 200 or at 100 kilometers.
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Any proof?? .......just your assumptions.
    True
    Again.
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Well after so many discussions you also admitted that if F-22 doesn't turn on it's radar then only IRST thing can work for EFT, but not after 50 kms......so one F-22 can detect it and others can easily attack it.
     
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    grond Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Then the closer aircraft can be detected by the target using rwr ..... If it is using a radar ...
     
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    TSUNAMI Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    No my point is one F-22 will detect it from long range ......... and others will use its information and attack on target.
     
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    grond Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    True ... That is a point .. But still I believe a eft has counter measures and I heard the MAWS system can detect a launch 200 km away.
    Oh and btw if you reply congrats on reaching a hundred... Cheers ..
     
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    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    pure fantasy is what you have written Picard.


    F-22 with no HMS and obsolete AIM-9 can hold its on against fighters like Rafale and Eurofighter with better missiles and HMS and which have better TWR, the rest is pure fantasy to justify a bias analisys you have made about F-22.

    F-22 is stealthier than Rafale in IR and radar spectrum

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    external weapons and conventional nozzles hardly a stealth aircraft
    [​IMG]

     
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  13. satya

    satya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    what?:crazy:
    even if a ballistic missile sized missile was hurled towards it, it won't have a clue
     
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    grond Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Seriously, i have no clue ... well this was spoken by a guy at drdo ...so i assumed it right... but now i'm pondering the state of our affairs
     
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    satya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    he might have been talking about something else

    MAWS is generally used to warn against missile approaching from small range
     
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