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Struggle For Baluchistan: News & Discussions

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Adil Baloch, Oct 7, 2013.

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    I already did that, in a private group, tried all 3 arguments of Pakistan on the Kashmir case before and after 47 war. Will post those from there and start a thread. Not many people replied there, only a very few, joe didnt and in another thread he claims to be tired of these threads by some newbie propping up and he had to repeat the same, so lets give him the break he needs.

    I know the difference between accession of Baluchistan and Kashmir and strangely most who ruled us for previous many years let a particular narrative to be settled, be it in name of human right or whatever BS they spit after getting the funds in their accounts.

    You can never find any such case in the world where a country let its own part become disputed so willingly and let an exactly opposite narrative to rule it. I will start the thread someday. By allowing Pakistan to even talk about Indian Kashmir a very grave injustice is done to Indian people.
     
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    Tag Joe Shearer only to correct ... or add on where amiss, he won't post as he is tired of repeating same things and for me too it is the same now .. also rainman and scorpionx & vcheng.
     
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    Didnt you say India supports no such activity on Pakistani soil and whatever I said regarding covert actions was wrong?
     
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    and you said Indian covert ops were disbanded, so what exactly covert ops means? Sugarcoating a word and intentional misleading does not make your point valid.

    This is the second time you made this claim of Vajpayee disbanding RAW assets in Pakistan, show some facts or proof of it cuz all I know from former RAW officers on TV and other people on various forum it was I.K Gujral. The doctrine is known as Gujral doctrine to build trust between India and Pakistan.

    I ignored this first time but you are intentionally misleading the people here and this is wrong! @PARIKRAMA please clear this up!
     
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    Attack on CPEC truck in Balochistan

     
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    Pakistan army & SNGPL authorities have bulldozed number of houses in Balochistan's Sui town in order to laid a pipeline for Punjab province
     
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    Four security personnel shot dead by suspected militants in Quetta

    At least four security personnel were shot dead by suspected militants on Fatima Jinnah road area of Quetta on Saturday evening, said police officials.

    "Armed men opened fire at Frontier Corps and police personnel on Quetta's Fatima Jinnah Road. One FC soldier and a police constable died on the spot, while two other FC personnel succumbed to their injuries on the way to hospital," said a police official.

    "Two passersby also sustained bullet wounds as result of the attack and were rushed to nearby civil hospital Quetta for medical treatment," the official added.

    A senior police official told DawnNews that the incident seemed to be an act of targeted killing. Senior police and FC officers reached the spot as investigation into the incident went underway.

    Police said the assailants escaped unhurt from the spot.

    Balochistan has been experiencing incidents of violence and targeted killings for over a decade. Al Qaeda-linked and sectarian militants also operate in the region. The province shares borders with Afghanistan and Iran.

    The largest province of the country by area, is home to a insurgency by ethnic Baloch separatists.
     
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    Pakistan’s Balochistan province facing devastating human rights crisis
    Balochistan, the largest and resource-rich province of Pakistan, has been facing the worst human rights crisis where the Baloch are being suppressed.

    In the worst form of oppression, military operations are being carried out against the civilians.

    Since July 26, Wahid Baloch, the 52-year-old Baloch activist, has been missing from Karachi. Wahid is among many other Baloch activists who have been picked up by intelligence sleuths for demanding justice and freedom.

    The whereabouts of these Baloch missing persons is unknown. Several of them were killed and their mutilated bodies were found dumped in isolated places across Balochistan.

    According to the Voice for Baloch Missing persons, an NGO, state authorities have admitted arrest of more than 12,000 people by Law Enforcement Agencies in the last one and a half years in Balochistan.

    The disappeared people have not been brought before any judicial body as yet.

    Baloch Diaspora has been raising the issue of state-run terror in Balochistan by holding events across Europe, Canada and the US.

    Recently in Brussels, France-based Baloch Voice Association raised the grim situation in Balochistan and demanded international intervention.

    Munir Mengal, the president of France based Baloch Voice Association said, “Look, how this Islamic state of Pakistan is suppressing us and how they are looting us and why they are killing our loved ones and who are they and for what purpose? They are sacrificing their lives and this thing we have mentioned in the declaration asking the organizations particularly the Red Cross that the Baloch prisoners should be declared as `prisoners of war’. We are in a state of war with a country which has occupied our land and killing our people. So, announce our prisoners as prisoners of war”.

    Claudia Heidelbery, who recently formed an NGO in london called `Friends of Balochistan’ said, “I see the situation in Balochistan because of the CPEC corridor, the contract between China and Pakistan. China wants Pakistan to secure the CPEC corridor and it gives Pakistan all options to strengthen the atrocities just to secure the corridor and also to exploit the natural resources of Balochistan”.

    The atrocities on Baloch people have increased after Islamabad and Beijing signed a multi-billion dollar China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

    The people in Balochistan, who are championing the cause of the Free Balochistan Movement, are opposing the project which they say will lead to exploitation of their resources.
     
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    #Germany: Human Rights activists and author Claudia Heidelberg speaking Balochistan in a demonstration at Bremen on 13 November 2016

     
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    Greater Balochistan: How and Why Political and Economic Marginalisation Should Be Brought to an End

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    In an analysis published on 16 November 2016 Alexander Murray, researcher at the University of Chicago, analyses the current situation of Balochis on both sides of the Iranian-Pakistani border. He concludes that, today, indigenous people of Greater Balochistan are considered to be a mere commodity and are used as pawns in national and regional political power plays. Considering the invaluable input that Balochis in both Pakistan and Iran could bring to regional development, the author argues that it is high time for Teheran and Islamabad to recognize and avail themselves of the inherent benefits the indigenous population can generate if they are included in political and economic decision-making processes and if their rights to royalties and compensation are respected.

    Below is an article published by the Eurasia Review:

    As infrastructure projects in Greater Balochistan come to be, governments across South and Central Asia should prepare for what will most likely turn into the region’s next hotbed of violence. Baloch across the region must be included in regional governments’ decision making processes or investors should prepare for the rural ethnic Baloch to thrust their projects into the dustbins of history.

    Until they are afforded influential autonomous positions within national, provincial, and local political institutions; until ethnic Baloch can confidently see themselves as equal partners in directing regional development initiatives; until they are tangibly integrated within all growing goods/service distribution networks, direct foreign investment will continues to be a very dangerous undertaking.

    Greater Balochistan – southwestern Afghanistan, southeastern Iran, and western Pakistan – has recently encountered a windfall of infrastructure development. As China assists their Pakistani counterparts in constructing and operating the deep-water port of Gwadar, less than 200 kilometers away India and Afghanistan have begun constructing their Iranian equivalent at Chabahar. Both of these projects, and the infrastructure networks emanating from them, are laying the groundwork for a movement of peoples yet unseen in the region.

    Though home to a diverse number of ethnicities, this region is populated most heavily by ethnic Baloch, who harbor near no representation in any of the three governments aforementioned. Having waged a rebellion in Pakistan for decades, usually beyond the view of international news media, ethnic Baloch in Afghanistan and Iran have retreated as refugees to foreign lands or faced bleak economic prospects that is their desolate corner of the world.

    Each country’s marginalization of ethnic Baloch has occurred all too intentionally. The Baloch in Pakistan are well aware of Islamabad’s exploitation of their natural resources for the sole benefit of Punjab and Sindh. Baloch in Iran and Afghanistan have been sacrificed as pawns in the water conflicts of their respective countries since the 1950s. As Shia dominated Tehran has exacerbated the rhetoric of the region at the expense of potentially rebellious Sunni Baloch, Afghanistan has perpetuated the ecological disaster that was formerly the Helmand River wetlands system. Thus far Baloch initiated outright conflict, as in Pakistan, and strategic patience, employed in Iran and Afghanistan, have returned few tangible results. The arrival of gas pipelines and railways goods might change the current abused, yet quiet, perspective of the locals.

    Although internationally coordinated development projects have the potential to make Greater Balochistan an affluent trading hub, little has been done to address the security and grassroots development of the region. Rather, all governments involved have utilized the political sensitivity of the area to further nationalist agendas threatening to inflame already existing tensions.

    In recent years, Iran has violently bolstered its border with Afghanistan as a means to combat a steady stream of refugees and opium. Iranian border guards frequently shoot to kill economic migrants, officials have built walls in certain areas, walls that divide a once porous border of intra-community trade, and Tehran frequently utilizes the threat of migrant mistreatment and deportation to flex its will at Kabul.

    Over the past several months, Pakistan has encouraged a policy of regional destabilization aimed at increasing Afghan economic dependence on the will of Islamabad. In August [2016], a key period of Afghan export trade, Pakistani officials closed the Wesh-Chaman border crossing for nearly two weeks causing millions of dollars of perishable fruits to waste away. This incident is commonly understood by political theorists to be an example of Islamabad’s determined economic skirmishes with Kabul regarding little more than national agendas. It is more than redundant to stress the Pakistani state security apparatus’ support of local Taliban militias, support again aimed at destabilization of what Islamabad sees as an unfavorable regime in Kabul.

    India, historical adversary of Pakistan, all the while continues to harass Islamabad at its flanks newly in Balochistan. While attempting to justify Indian actions in Kashmir, during Independence Day celebrations Indian Prime Minister Modi unnecessarily invoked the non-sequitur that India supports the Pakistani Baloch struggle for recognition. In doing so, the PM invited new allegations of direct Indian involvement in Pakistani internal affairs and accomplished little more than greater deterioration of South Asian security.

    Since Tehran-Kabul-Islamabad-Delhi relations continue to utilize Greater Balochistan as a pawn in national agendas, little practical intervention has taken place to affect the locals most brutalized. Only foreign investors have begun to reasonably consider the ethnic Baloch, who have thus far remained little more than a business line item. It is apparent to the current author that if these policies do not change, the people wrongfully labeled a commodity and/or talking point, will continue to violently rise up across national borders and exert their will to remind the region of their true value. Understanding and utilizing that Baloch value appropriately could in turn benefit every actor in the region to whom the value becomes clear.

    Currently, rural ethnic Baloch find themselves represented by the Afghan Taliban, the Balochistan Liberation Army, and few else within Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran respectively. Those bodies of representation do not seek to address national concerns, but rather have commanded legitimacy by acknowledging and acting on local issues. Having done so, they maintain safe havens from which to exert violent attacks upon outside actors, the most frequent target being national governments. With the arrival of international business enterprises, these groups have expanded their targets of violence so as to garner further attention to their plights large and small. Should regional governments effectively integrate their leaders into existing government structures, local needs may appropriately be focused upon and national legitimacy gained lessening the desire for violent aims.

    While ethnic Baloch have a longstanding history of conflict with their respective national governments, international businesses investing in the region are relatively new actors. The scale upon which they might be locally judged is not yet known. Though each business maintains a national affiliation, independent businesses have a much greater degree of discretion regarding with whom they choose to interact. Statistics show a relatively low involvement of Baloch laborers in the Chinese project at Gwadar, and even fewer in management positions, and none to speak of in executive advisory capacities. This has not yet proven to be the case at Chabahar nor at infrastructure projects within Nimroz and/or Helmand province, Afghanistan. Baloch inclusion within international business ventures in the region supports local means of legitimization, hence contributing to lessened security volatility.

    Regardless of the previously proposed areas of intervention, the Greater Balochistan security situation demands economic compensation local Baloch believe they deserve. This is the primary concern of all Baloch in the region and is a positive step that can be taken by any independent actor. National governments and regional polities, domestic businesses and transnational corporations, private investors and quite literally anyone seeking security in this tumultuous corner of the world must begin the process of legitimately integrating continued streams of revenue and services to Baloch living in all nations concerned. From where longstanding Baloch frustration derives itself is continued historical economic marginalization. Even today, pipelines and highways direct themselves through or away from Greater Balochistan. Each passing lorry furthers local discontent. All actors involved must seek to remedy this situation or face the consequences of the increasingly armed and de facto rulers of this previously forgotten land. Guerilla warfare and acts of terrorism must not remain the Baloch’s only ways to win recognition and support.
    http://unpo.org/article/19647
     
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    Balochistan: Pakistani forces disappeared more than 60 people to clear CPEC route

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    QUETTA: Pakistani security forces have intensified their offensive against Baloch resident living on CPEC route abducting more than 80 people in two weeks from Dasht area of district Kech.

    According Human Right organizations and media reports from Balochistan Pakistani forces increased their attack against people of Balochistan, especially in the coastal belt, where the China and Pakistan are trying to make the Gwadar port functional and work is underway on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

    At least 64 Baloch civilians have been arrested and disappeared whose whereabouts remain unknown whereas several houses of innocent Baloch villagers and resident on CPEC root have been set on fire.

    Local people of district Kech says that many people have been forces to fled from their houses due routine indiscriminate ground and air strikes.

    Most of the attacks and offensives have been conducted in several small villages of Dasht region in district Kech Balochistan. Dasht is located from about 50km from the port city of Gwadar and about 80 km from the main city of Turbat Balochistan. The area has been the main target of Pakistani forces because of Gwadar port and the CPEC.

    Pakistan has been abducting and killing innocent Baloch from all over Balochistan especially the coastal belt of Makuran to appease its Chinese partner in crime.

    The details of military operations, abducted people, and losses in Dasht in last 18 days have been released by a local Human Rights Organisation as following:

    November 1st, 2016: 35 military vehicles accompanied by 5 gunship helicopters started massive military offensives in Kombel, Dasht. The Pakistani forces carried out a door-to-door search and terrorized human and children.

    Later they expanded the scoop of their attacks to Hasadig, Dasht, where gunship helicopters ponded the areas killing hundreds of livestock. At the same time ground forces conducted a house-to-house search and looted the valuable belongings of residents before setting their houses to fire.

    November 8, 2016: Early morning forces raided Machi village in Dasht and abducted 7 people. Six people were released the next day while one of them, Sabir son of Jami, has not been release. His whereabouts remain unknown.

    The following evening Pakistani forces attacked Pittok region of Dasht and abducted three men who were released after four days of torture and illegal detention.

    November 10, 2016: Pakistani Forces raided Gwahrag Gar area of Dasht and abducted one man named Niyaz s/o Mohammad Hayat.

    The following evening the occupying state forces surrounded Jan Mohammad Bazar in Dasht and abducted five people. Who have been named as Nisar son Shahdad, Rashid son of Ibrahim, Obaid son of Abdul Samad, Siraj son of Hasil, Obaid son of Shay Mohammad.

    However, after two days the rest of them were released except Sija son of Hasil who is still being detained by Pakistani force at some undisclosed location.

    November 11, 2016: Pakistani forces abducted a father and son named as Abdul Majeed son of Kutub and Muslim son of Abdul Majeed during an attack on Jath Bazar in Dasht Balochistan.

    November 13, 2016: Two brothers named as Doda son of Murad Mohammad and Shoaib son of Murad Mohammad were abducted from Bahot Chaat are of Dasht.

    Another eight people have been abducted from Drachko are of Dasht on the same day. The victims have been identified as Khalid son of Lal Bakhsh, Arif son Washdil, Nasir son of Nizar Mohammad, Shabir son of Swali, Shoaib son of Gazzi, Saeed son of Gazzi, Ijaz son of Jami and Waheed son of Kamal.

    November 14, 2016: In the early morning, Pakistani forces attacked Gwahrag Hussain Bazar in Dasht and abducted one person named as Zahid son of Rahmat.

    Separately, the Pakistani forces abducted another five people from Bal Nigwar area of Dasht on the same day. The abducted men have been named as Chakar son of Phullan, Doshambay son of Bahadur, Sameer son of Abdul Hameed and Hameed son of Ibrahim.

    November 18, 2016: Pakistani forces carried out another offensive in Mullai Nigwar, Chateeg Bazar, Haji Karam Shah Bazar, and Phullan Bazar villages of Dasht, District Kech. They abducted five people including 70-year-old Haji Karam Shah along with his three sons. The victims of enforced-disappearance have been named as Naseem son of Karim Bakhsh, Karam Shah son of Panch Shambay, Abdul Karim son of Karam Shah, Ayub son of Karam Shah, Mohammad son of Karam Shah.

    Later the aged man Karam Shah and his son Ayub were released but the rest of them are still being detained by Pakistani forces.

    During another attack on the same day Pakistani forces surrounded Horr village of Dasht and abducted twenty people who have been named as Badal son of Sayaki, Waheed son of Sayaki, Habib son of Faqir, Iqbal son of Hussain, Naseer son of Jan Mohammad, Sameer son of Jan Mohammad, Hamza son of Shahdad, Elahi Bakhsh son of Murad Jan, Naseem son of Sakidad, Haleem son of Sakidad, Naseem son of Saleh Mohammad, Aziz son of Karim Bakhsh, Salman son of Rasheed, Shareef son of Dil Murad, Niaz son of Ibrahim, Basit son of Ibrahim, Riaz son of Dad Mohammad, Fazal son of Dad Mohammad, Nadeem son of Abdul Karim, Majeed son of Khuda Dad, Waheed son of Ibrahim, Sattar son of Abdul Rehman, Hamid son of Saleem, Sharif son of Faqir, Lal Jan son of Ahmed and Akram son of Dost Mohammad.

    During this attack, Pakistan force looted five cars, six motorcycles and one tractor of the poor residents.

    Also, on 18 November Pakistan forces raided Kaheerin Dasht and abducted Abdul Karim son of Ghulam Qadir. He is a resident of Kuroos Tank region of Dasht.

    Yet in another attack on the night of November 18, 2016, Pakistani forces attacked Jan Mohammad Bazar, Dasht and abducted 10 people including three brothers. The victims have been named as Noor Mohammad son of Iqbal, Abdul Hai son of Iqbal, Fahad son of Iqbal, Yaqoob son of Shah Murad, Liaquat son of Shahdad, Zahid son of Ibrahim, Rashid son of Ibrahim, Sanaullah son of Syed Mohammad, Shaho son of Syed Mohammad and Jabir son of Rasheed.

    Despite all the attack by Pakistani forces and blatant Human Rights violation the Pakistani media remain dead silent on such state sponsored crimes. The International media and Human Rights groups are not allowed in Balochistan to observe the state atrocities against Baloch people.
    http://balochwarna.com/2016/11/22/b...ared-more-than-60-people-to-clear-cpec-route/
     
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    China, Pakistan to deploy warships to safeguard Balochistan port


    Rezaul H Laskar, Hindustan Times, New Delhi |

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    This file photograph shows the construction site at Gwadar port in the Arabian Sea. (AFP Photo)


    China will deploy its naval vessels in coordination with the Pakistan Navy to safeguard the Gwadar port in Balochistan and trade under a bilateral trade corridor, according to a media report on Friday.

    Besides the joint deployment of warships, Pakistan is considering the purchase of super-fast vessels from China and Turkey for a special squadron to be positioned at Gwadar to secure the deep sea port, an unnamed Pakistan Navy official was quoted as saying by The Express Tribune.

    “A squadron may have four to six warships,” the official said on the sidelines of the IDEAS 2016 defence exhibition in Karachi.

    The super-fast vessels would be “bought soon” in view of their immediate need in the fleet and two warships had already been deployed at Gwadar, the official said.

    The role of Pakistan’s maritime forces had increased since the country made Gwadar operational and expedited up economic activities under the $46-billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the official said.

    India has for long expressed concerns about the Chinese Navy’s involvement in the Gwadar port, which is at the heart of the CPEC.

    The Tribune quoted another unnamed naval official as saying that Pakistan has kicked off the process of establishing the region’s largest shipyard at Gwadar. A similar ship-building project is being considered for Port Qasim in Karachi.

    The two advanced shipyards will design and develop ships and other security equipment for the Pakistan Navy.

    “The existing shipyard, the Pakistan National Shipping Corporation, lacks capacity to meet new requirements of the force. Its (PNSC) performance, however, would improve in competition with the two under consideration,” he said.

    The PNSC will hand over a large fleet tanker being built in collaboration with Turkey to the Pakistan Navy.
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    Chinese script somewhere in Balochistan

     
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    Pakistan fails to stop Baloch representative from exposing CPEC in UNHRC

     
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    Ruthless Pak army destroying homes of poor in Balochistan

     
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