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Su-30MKI Multirole Fighter Aircraft and Super 30 Upgrade News, Discussions..

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    The numbers will keep on changing as 20 MKI's are added every year.
     
  2. Skull and Bones

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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    Isn't it too early to deduce the RCS of Pak Fa and J-20?
     
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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    Even an U-2 was shot down by Dvina SAM system. i don't think Su-30MKI can operate at that high altitude. Jet aircrafts need oxygen rich atmosphere to operate, while SAMs don't.
     
  4. satya

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    actually i too think space b/w engine can be used as indoor weapon bay,but this will have to be extended till nose to streamline,this is same as we are doing in PAK-FA,

    RCS is not something we can calculate on calculaters it needs huge supercomputers
     
  5. satya

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    planned no. of su-30mki is 270 and will be upgraded to super su-30mki,why not buy another 90 or so?
     
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    There is report stating the MKI airframes will be modified and will contain more composites . this is true ?
     
  7. indian spetsnaz

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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    everything is fair in love and war
     
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    Yeah but they can get alerted.... and start preparing firing Ballasitc Missiles...
     
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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    i dont think PAKFA is a stealthy SU-30... PAK-FA is way smaller than su-35... there is an entire re design.... even for inlent.. and it cannot have smaller RCS but it should like in VLO spectrum or atleast between LO and VLO spectrum
     
  10. jagjitnatt

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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    Hmmm.... We can't say its way smaller. Its just a little smaller.

    And we can't call it a redesign for sure. The airframe has been derived from the Flanker. The inlets are also just tweaked. It doesn't employ the intake like the Raptor, J20 or F-35. It is very similar to the Flanker. The Russians are just putting in the their best sensors in a stealthy Flanker.
     
  11. Bad Wolf

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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    well induction rate is much more then mention they will increase by 10 -20 per year then normal 15-20
     
  12. satya

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    members please tell me after this upgrade can i call su-30 only next to f-22 raptor:india: taking in account f-35 not operational till then
     
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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    I'd say it would compete with the best 4.5 gen aircraft, like Typhoon, and F-15C, and F-18E. Rafale would be a toast in front of MKI.
     
  14. satya

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    anything else left except f-22 after you take these in account?,i want to hear please say only next to f-22,( though next doesnt means close to f-22 )

    was there enough motivation behind SU-T50 as there was behind F-22?
     
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    Re: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

    But in BVR combat, Typhoon, F-15SE, Rafale has the upper edge. They can detect Su-30s miles before Su-30 can detect them.
     

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