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Su-30MKI Multirole Fighter Aircraft and Super 30 Upgrade News, Discussions..

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    40% higher than this figure of 410 due to two CFTs.
     
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    F-16 Blk 60
    675 nmi (1,255 km) with two Mk-84, two AIM-9 or AIM-120, two 370-gal and one 300-gal fuel tanks For F-16 blk 60


    Source :http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/f16/

    Su-30

    An Su-30 It can carry up to 8,000 kg/ 17,650 lb of weapons and payloads over 700 nmi or 1296.4 KM unrefueled combat radius.SU-30s are fully multi-role, with strong ground attack capabilities if required. For Strike missions

    @randomradio I thinks Its clears Everything
     
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    X_Killer Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    MKI has 3000Km range solely with its internal fuel.
    Ferry Range depends on the endurance of the Aircraft. You can't go further even if you have IFR or not
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    MKI's ferry range is 3000Km. F-16's is 4200Km.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Aircraft range is dependent on pilot fatigue if IFR is involved. So all these jets can fly as long as the pilots want them to fly.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    8000Kg is just a number. You have to look at weapons layout.

    If you put drop tanks on the MKI, then it will carry only 1 heavy bomb. F-16 can carry twice as much in comparison.
     
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    Ferry range means the maximum range the aircraft can fly. This usually means maximum fuel load, optionally with extra fuel tanks and minimum equipment. It refers to transport of aircraft for use on remote location without any passengers or cargo.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_(aeronautics)

    If pilot fatigue is the criteria, than AWACS can be airborne for its much longer time ( more than a week) with its IFR, If it have onboard sufficient kitchen and restroom facilities
     
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    Oh wow! Simply genius. You don't even know how this works.

    Wow! Simply, wow! I suppose now I know nobody can take you seriously.

    Real answer, the AWACS can stay up in the air with inflight refueling until its engine oil is over. But fighter pilots get fatigued in less than 16 hours. So both F-16 and MKI can stay in the air for 12-16 hours depending on the mission.

    Ferry range means how far an aircraft can fly without in flight refueling.
     
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    Question is Why drop tank needed If We have Over 700 NM Combat radius With Internal fuel

    how F-16 can carry Twice Its more on Weapon configuration than Payload

    Adding Drop tanks To F-16 Will compromise its Payload capacity to very extent

    A Basic F-16 falcon has combat radius is 550 km (340 mi) on a hi-lo-hi mission with six 450 kg (1,000 lb) bombs.(Maximum 2700 KG Payload)

    While With Su-30 can do Take 8000 KG payload of bombs For similar Strike mission To 1295 Km Lets Say If IAF Modify Add

    KAB-1500L into MKI . In One Go MKI can carry 5 such smart bombs Into the target With 700 NM combat mission range

    A Su-34 can Carry 6 x KAB-1500L


    Rather using brahmos its better To use 3 X Kh-59 Stand-off Missile
    Kh-59MK2 - AS-22 stealth standoff version, rocket or turbofan engine, shown in MAKS 2015. Light compact tactical stealth ALCM with a range of 290 km (for export) and 550 km (for domestic use) versions. Rumors have told that India will get "special" export version with a range extended up to 350 km

    [​IMG]


    Its all about Weapon configuration my friend

     
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    @vstol jockey @PARIKRAMA @Sancho
    Somebody please clear his doubts about Ferry Range, specially in case of Su-30MKI & F-16
     
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    he is Right In MKI case the Real range of MKI is 3000 Km. With Internal fuel

    MKI Need a Mid-air refiling At 1500 KG Which increases Its range further to 5200 KM
    And With Second Refueling To 8000 KM

    While the Ferry range Of Su-35 is 4,500 km (2,430 nmi) with 2 external fuel tanks
     
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    Maximum Range for which an aircraft can fly without any touchdown.
    Ferry Range for Su-30MKI is ~ 8000Km
    Don't be confused
     
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    Ferry range as the nomenclature suggests is the maximum distance an aircraft can travel with the fuel available to it. F-16 can carry drop tanks and CFTs which allow it to carry very large fuel load while SU-30MKI has only internal fuel available to it as it is not plumbed for drop tanks or CFTs. The ferry range does not include range extension thru IFR.
     
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