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Sukhoi likely downed by cyber weapons

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by DrSomnath999, May 28, 2017.

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  1. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Baghdogra is relatively flat and you may have flown as part of civil air traffic over the Siliguri Corridor into North East, on a good day the trades do give the weak stomached a queasy feeling. Chabua too is relatively a good flat ground as compared to the area where Su-30 has gone down.

    If you take an approximation due North of Tezpur, 60 kms as per media report, you are in Pakke Tiger Reserve and adjacent to Bomdila.

    The topography remains as I described with white out conditions likely due to poor weather. Speculative from my side I agree.

    But then, I have a 24 x 7 access to a pilot who has been a regular flier into Tuting ALG, Menchuka ALG, Chabua, Jorhat, Vijaynagar etc, a vet of North East; I would still take the pilot's word over it being a likely cause rather than hard-to-digest brain fart as the OP suggests.
     
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    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    As IAF issued Court of Inquiry, so we have to wait for that.
    Everything will be clear after CoI
     
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    Soumya Major STAR MEMBER

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    All those people were saying cyber attack downed our plane
     
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    Yes, that's why ADA took so much time to develop the FBW in the LCA project.
    I am very much confident, in the ADA's holistic approach they took, for the FCS development, and done thousands of tests in every possible conditions.

    Your example wrt to your experience, is possible, but that does not indicates the bug in the algorithm, it could be the problem related to the communication from your control to the hydraulic control computer. Same could be said for the electrical control system, which will work abnormally due the failure of the motor control circuit, or a simple actuator malfunctioning or hydraulic pipe leakage.

    A-320 developed and integrated by the Airbus, does not automatically means they are perfect in all the system, infact they too outsource various subassemblies, subsystems from various vendors across the Globe. Once British Airbase have to ground all its planes, after consecutive accidents in the midair at high altitude aka rupturing and blast in the plane fuselage and a committee was formed for its technical analysis and investigation and discovered that the main culpit was the Rivet holes used in the windows, which was too close to each other.

    My objection was only that, you are pointing to the FCS problem, without even completion of the investigation. So lets not make any assumption at this moment.
     
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    Chinese are able to shortened the technical gap quickly by pumping the money, in the former USSR CAR nations, and buying the rip off technology directly, including its blue prints, samples, tools, machining, dies.


    Anyway, I don't believe in the bogus theory of the EW Jammer on board a fighter plane is capable enough to jam the Powerful radars of the Ship. These types of systems are capable of adversary effect its performance, but their are various anti jamming techniques also to nullify it.
     
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    How much chances of the Pilot survival in that dense forest is there.
     
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    Fox Supreme Overlord FULL MEMBER

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    Cyber weapon my *ss.

    Bad weather, rough terrain. That's far more plausible.
     
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    India has its own KALI.Kilo Ampere Linear Injuncture which can destroy the electronic board of an incoming missile. It has ranges from 5000 to 10000. So the story cannot be ruled out fully.
     
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    Su30mki & Su30mkChina does it have similarities in FBW ?
     
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    lol dude.....:p :p its not even in prototype stage and range written by you, dont u think is very big range
     
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    Range is with regard to energy current of 5kA not distance. The accelerator can beam electron beam at 10 to 100 Hz.
     
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    A lot of servers around the world running defense applications are still using Windows XP .. they are so heavily encrypted that it's impossible to hack through them. This case is fbw failure+bad weather or engine failure. Its not the first su 30 that we have lost. This cyber shit has been cooked up by media.
     
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    I am just saying that the technology exist. If India is developing KALI others may have already developed it.
     
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    If we were so well integrated, things would have been far improved!

    Under Digital India, now only is connectivity coming even to main city based Military Units as OFC is being laid out. In Army, the Army Wide Area Network and Army Intranet is so pathetic, that mails dispatched from 3 kms away also need physical printed collection due to minimal bandwidth being provided and civil internet being a strict no.

    With lack of adequate financial back up to lay thousands of kilometres worth of OFC, Army is now only getting connectivity and over the next 3 - 4 years, we should see some improvement.

    We have BOSS, a Linux based Bharat Operating System Solution, on which Army has been mandatorily asked to work under Digital India plan. The bandwidth speed of connection authorised by BSNL (at renewal fee of Rs 10000 per year plus monthly usage charges) is not to exceed 256 Kbps!!!!!:facepalm:

    Imagine the loot and thuggery. And BOSS works like crap even with a 2 Mbps connection!!:LMAO:


    If someone wants to hack into Indian Armed Forces, they will need to physically go on ground :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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