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Sukhoi Su-57 / PAK FA 5th Generation Aircraft

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  1. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    India and Russia make little headway in deal to develop FGFA

    After several rounds of tough talks by Indian and Russian officials on Development of Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), both have failed to settle their differences says report prepared by defensenews.com.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin raised this issue with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his visit to India few weeks back and both agreed to work towards resolving differences over work share and development cost, but no breakthrough in talks have happened and little headway has been made .

    FGFA will be jointly developed by Russian Sukhoi and Indian HAL .aircraft will be based on Sukhoi’s PAK-FA / T-50 5th Generation fighter jets customised for Indian Air force but HAL’s work share already has fallen to mere 13 % which involves development of not so critical systems like tyres, basic navigation equipment, laser designation pods, heads-up displays and coolant for the radar for FGFA , while India will pay 50 % of the developmental cost .

    India is already upset with Russia for not giving its experts “full technological access” to the FGFA project despite being an equal funding partner. The final design contract is yet to be signed even after 4 years of negotiation. India had inked preliminary design contract with Russia in December 2010.

    IAF to has taken strong stand on FGFA and objected to fighter’s preliminary design features and has taken potshots on development of AL-41F1 engines, its stealth features and its weapons carriage system. IAF was also critical on performance of AESA radar which Russians are developing for the fighter jet. While HAL had earlier agreed to work share offered by Russians on FGFA it was the objection by IAF which stalled the talks who are still not convinced of delivery schedules and technology under development.

    Defence Expert Vinayak Shetty informed idrw.org that fine tuning of the final design of India’s 5th-Generation fighter aircraft AMCA is underway and more details are to be revealed in Aero India 2015 , Development of AMCA had taken back seat due to delays faced by LCA Tejas Team of Tejas MK-1 .

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    India should not rely on this joint project since Russia's submerging economy is now smaller than Mexico, and its ruble is still free falling.
     
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    Russia is better than Mexico mulattos only drinking tequila.

    In Russia they drinking vodka.

    In Sweden we drinking beer.
     
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    The Americans still do about F-16 and F-15 dont they?
     
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    this is new PAK FA 6th prototype pics
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  6. he-man

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    Its a static frame for testing designated t-50, 7 incorporating some design changes from previous protos as u can see non metalling cowlings on engines so engines will not be left naked now like in previous protos and mki/su-35

    India will likely get t-50 6-1 next year based on old prototype for testing.
     
  7. DrSomnath999

    DrSomnath999 Major RESEARCHER

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    Five facts for T-50
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    Fifth-generation fighter T-50
    Source: militaryrussia.ru


    Russian fifth-generation aircraft T-50 (PAK FA), which supply the troops will begin in the coming year, no less fantastic than the space fighters from "Star Wars." It has a super-maneuverability, invisible to radar - although he sees everything - is able to fight equally effective at any range, hitting the target in the sky and on the ground.


    Invisible Glider


    All amazing T-50 is hidden from view. 70 percent of its skin made of composite materials to reduce the visibility. The effective area of scattering T-50 - a key parameter in the radar - 0.5 square meters. This means that on the radar screen it will look like the subject of the size of a balloon.


    The geometry of the airframe and wings designed so that the T-50 could be flown at high angles of attack. It is necessary for super-maneuverability, which provide the PAK FA


    Rotary nozzle


    The aircraft is equipped with engines with thrust vector control (item 117). As the rotary engine aft motor boats, deflected nozzles allow the PAK FA unfold virtually on the spot.


    To overcome enemy air defenses engines can go from round to flat nozzles. This is inefficient - loss of traction reach 5-7 percent - but it is necessary to hide the massive red-hot turbine from radar and infrared sensors.


    Article 117 allows you to accelerate to supersonic speeds without using afterburner and is equipped with a digital control system. However, this is only the first stage - in 2020 to replace the current motors come new, with an increase of 25-30 per cent of traction.


    Smart Cabin


    At the T-50 are six radars. Their antennas are distributed over the casing, providing all-round visibility. Right before the canopy is an optoelectronic sensor system to detect targets, behind the cab - infrared sensor, which allows to see "behind".


    Electronic warfare station "Himalayas" makes the T-50 to become invisible to enemy radar, while allowing you to see enemy stealth aircraft. Its equipment is also scattered over the surface of the PAK FA.


    - We make no separate units and aircraft parts from the built-in electronic devices, - explained the CEO of Concern "Radio-electronic technology," Nikolai Kolesov.


    Cold reason


    T-50 - very clever plane. His two multiprocessor computer connected to the fiber interface bandwidth gigabit per second. Electronic intelligence system collects information from radio, radar, optical and other sensors, it forms a coherent picture of what is happening in heaven and on earth and where to apply for transfers.


    PAK FA is able to fight both alone and as part of the concept of "unified field", where each combat vehicle is the eyes, ears and impact strength of the whole army. T-50 can transmit data to other aircraft and ground-based air defense systems, or receive targeting them. Airborne weapon control system allows up to 60 accompany goals while firing 16 of them.


    The navigation system of the aircraft combined: GPS, GLONASS, both standard and without any satellites. The last case has inertial navigation, as in ballistic missiles. Gyroscopes and accelerometers to measure the angular velocity of flight, and electronics, knowing the coordinates of the take-off, and calculates the current location of the T-50.


    Fundamentally new control system can take some of the load on piloting, allowing the pilot to concentrate on combat missions. Pilot receives information in the form of images on multifunction displays three. There are display on the windshield, helmet-mounted target designation system and voice informant. He says a pleasant female voice: "Start resolved."


    Long arms


    PAK FA is able to dogfight at any distance, and is armed with rockets for this large, medium and short range. Long-range R-37 set a world record by hitting a target at a distance of 304 kilometers. Medium-range missiles RVV-SD NATO was given the name "Viper". Its warhead is armed with metal rods with miniature cumulative elements. The rods are connected to each other and form an expanding ring blasting, cutting target.


    Short-range missiles K-MD can be used for missile defense. To protect the aircraft and operate "Himalaya" - they are trying to fool the enemy homing missiles.


    Because T-50 is not "pure" fighter, and multi-purpose aircraft, he has weapons and to work on the ground. For example, the supersonic missile "BrahMos" Russian-Indian production, anti-X-35, or "killer radar" P-58.
    Пять секретов Т-50 - ВПК.name

    p.s The translate is not accurate IMO
     
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    India Fast Tracks 5th Generation Fighter Jet Project With Russia

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    New Delhi: India and Russia on Wednesday agreed to speed up work and iron out hurdles that are holding up the co-production and co-designing of a 5th Generation Fighter Aircraft.

    The two nations had in 2012 agreed to jointly design and produce the next generation fighters. Both countries are scheduled to spend US $5.5 billion each towards the cost of designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development and flight testing. But the UPA Government had failed to operationalise the project.

    The decision to fast-track the programme was done in a bilateral meeting between Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, at the 14th Meeting of the Indian-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission on Military-Technical Cooperation, which took place in New Delhi on Wednesday.

    Speaking to reporters after the meeting in New Delhi, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said, "We have decided to fast-track many of the issues."

    However, the 5th generation fighter being built for the Russian Air Force is already being flight tested in Russia and India has suggested that a fresh Research and Development (R&D) contract would be a waste of time and resources.

    Russia has already built five-prototypes in single pilot version. The Indian version is a two-seater, which will acomodate one pilot and a co-pilot who will function as a Weapon Systems Operator (WSO).

    Mr Parrikar has also told Russia that India wants the stealth fighter jet to be inducted into the Indian Air Force much before 2024-25 - the date that was fixed for delivery. India plans to build as many as 127 fighters at the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited facility in Nashik. The Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) project is estimated to cost $25 billion.

    Besides, the two sides have agreed that India will now exchange all information about flight safety protocols being followed on Russian platforms - fighter jets, helicopters and the transport planes - flown by the Indian Air Force.

    This information exchange is crucial given the series of accidents in the Indian Air Force, including engine problems in India's mainstay fighter, the Sukhoi Su-30 MKI. Russia had also earlier contested India's claim that the pilot seats of the Su-30 ejected automatically during the last crash in October last year.

    India Fast Tracks 5th Generation Fighter Jet Project With Russia
     
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    New Delhi Gets Full Access to Russian New Fighter Jet Technology


    According to Indian ambassador in Moscow, defense companies involved in a joint project with Russia to build a Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) are satisfied with their access to Russian technologies.
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    © AFP 2015/ Manjunath KIRAN
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    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Indian defense companies involved in a joint project with Russia to build a Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) are satisfied with their access to Russian technologies, the Indian ambassador in Moscow said, denying media reports that Moscow withheld information from New Delhi.
    "We have had excellent results in our bilateral cooperation and are fully satisfied with the access to technologies that our defense enterprises get. We proceed with the same level of cooperation in the development of the FGFA," Ambassador Pundi Srinivasan Raghavan told RIA Novosti.

    This remark came after IHS Jane's Defence Weekly magazine claimed last September that India had expressed concerns to Russia over the progress on the FGFA program. According to the defense news weekly, New Delhi was annoyed about Russia's reluctance to share design data on its T-50 PAK-FA jet, which is the base model for the FGFA aircraft.

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    © Flickr/ Vinay Bavdekar
    Russia's 2014 Arms, Military Equipment Supplies to India Amount to $4.7 Bn
    Raghavan refuted these reports, saying they "may have been supplied by competitors," and accused the media of biased reporting.

    The ambassador lauded the progress in military technical cooperation between Russia and India, who are working on a raft of bilateral projects.

    "The new tendency in the relationship is the joint development of advanced technology weapon systems. FGFA, MTA and Brahmos Missile are examples of the joint development of weapon systems incorporating sophisticated technology," he noted.

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    Russia, India to Start Manufacture of First Test Models of T-50 Fighter Jet
    MTA stands for the Multirole Transport Aircraft, which is a twin-engine light transport plane with a maximum take-off weight of 65 tons. It is designed to replace the BAe 748 and Antonov An-26 craft, currently in Indian service.

    Raghavan told RIA Novosti the countries have agreed to fast-track the project, with a timetable to be laid out by the year-end.

    "Both sides have decided to speed up the work of the project. Apparently, this multi project differs from other projects and that is why it takes more time to discuss all the details. But I hope that by the end of 2015, we will be able to agree on a very clear and detailed timetable," he said.

    Russian aircraft-makers and Indian officials are expected to meet in Bangalore during the 10th edition of Aero India 2015 defense and civil aviation expo, to be held on February 18-22.


    Read more: New Delhi Gets Full Access to Russian New Fighter Jet Technology / Sputnik International
     
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    Wonder how accurate the information is from a Russian news organization called Sputnik International.?
     
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    HEY Vritra, where have you been ??

    And How have you been doing ??
     
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    Hi MY. I've been around. Busy with work, mostly in places without internet.

    Thanks :laugh:
     
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