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Sukhoi Su-57 / PAK FA 5th Generation Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by tariqkhan18, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Article translated by Austin

    https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/392902-rossiyskiy-istrebitel-5-go-pokoleniya-luchshiy-v-mire/
     
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    Locke FULL MEMBER

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    To sum up, you can't support any of your claims and you believe things that can't be supported by physics. I'm the one wasting my time arguing with someone who probably wants the IAF to start inducting flying unicorns. Forget it.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Sorry, mate. It's you who made silly claims and I debunked all of them with explanations and links.

    I even put up a USAF report which said the F-22 and F-35 will be useless in a post 2030 world, the time when PAK FA and J-20 will be out in numbers.

    But yeah, I think the discussion ends here.
     
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    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

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    The Israeli are given billions of US dollars in military aid on the condition that they spend it exclusively in Uncle Sam's Defense Emporium. What else could they buy? F-15? They'd like to.

    The value for them in buying F-35 is first and foremost that if they were buying anything else, or at least anything not American, then they would have to kiss billions of free dollars bye-bye. Understandably, they don't want to.

    I mean, if the USA were bribing me to accept being given some F-35, I would definitely accept. (And then sell them to China. Like Israel does, too. This is called "enlightened self-interest".)
     
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    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    With such massive bombardment of energy in contemporary times, what kind of scientific research exists to convert EM --> Heat --> Electrical energy.

    Latest we hear commercially is the wireless smartphone chargers.
     
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    Boeing would be delighted to sell more F-15s. Israel isn't ordering though.
     
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    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/644859/sukhoi-manufacturing-plant-can-roll.html

    Sukhoi manufacturing plant can roll out 5th-gen fighter jet: HAL

    Press Trust of India, New Delhi, Nov 26 2017, 13:14 IST

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    The manufacturing facility of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd producing Sukhoi fighter jets can be used to build the fifth-generation fighter aircraft if the government decides to go ahead with the proposed Indo-Russian joint venture, T Suvarna Raju, the chief of the aerospace behemoth, has said. PTI file photo

    The manufacturing facility of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd producing Sukhoi fighter jets can be used to build the fifth-generation fighter aircraft if the government decides to go ahead with the proposed Indo-Russian joint venture, T Suvarna Raju, the chief of the aerospace behemoth, has said.

    Raju said the state-of-the-art facility in Nasik will not require any major investment to reconfigure it to produce the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA).

    He said there was much in common between the FGFA and the Sukhoi 30MKI jet as both had structural similarities and the plant was well equipped to produce the new generation stealth fighter for which India and Russia have been in negotiations for nearly a decade.

    "Definitely, it can be used for the FGFA. It will need a little bit of augmentation. We will not need major investment," Raju, the chairman and managing director of HAL, told PTI.

    The facility at Nasik is set to fall idle after it delivers the last batch of 35 aircraft out of the total order of 222 to the Indian Air Force.

    In 2007, India and Russia had inked an inter-governmental pact for the FGFA project but no concrete decision has yet been taken on it.

    Pitching for the FGFA project, Raju said it would be an opportunity for India to acquire high technology which has not been offered to it by any other country except Russia.

    "I will not comment on the justification on expenditure on the project. But, as a country, if we are looking for fifth generation technology and if somebody has offered it to us, then definitely I would like to go for it regardless of the expenditure," Raju said.

    There is a view in the defence establishment that India should not go for the project considering the possible cost which has been roughly estimated at around USD 25 billion (around Rs 1.61 lakh crore).

    The defence ministry is likely to soon take a call on a report submitted recently by a high-level committee set up by the government to examine various aspects of the project.

    In December 2010, India had agreed to pay USD 295 million (Rs 1,897 crore) towards the preliminary design of the fighter, which is called the 'Perspective Multi-role Fighter' in India.

    However, the negotiations faced various hurdles in the subsequent years.

    In February last year, India and Russia revived talks on the project after a clearance from then Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar.

    Raju said the Nasik plant may be converted to a maintenance facility for the Sukhoi fleet if the FGFA project does not take off. The delivery of the remaining Sukhoi jets is likely to be over by early 2020.
     
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    Hindustani78 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-fighter-to-bolster-fleet/article20945244.ece
    ‘Sukhoi plant can roll out 5th-gen fighter jet’
    The state-of-the-art facility of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, which manufactures Sukhoi fighter jets, can be used to build the fifth-generation fighter aircraft if the government decides to go ahead with the proposed Indo-Russian joint venture, T Suvarna Raju, the chief of the aerospace behemoth, has said.
     
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    Russia flies first Su-57 fitted with new Product 30 engine



    • 05 DECEMBER, 2017
    • SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM
    • BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE
    • WASHINGTON DC


    Russia’s latest fighter aircraft flew on 5 December for the first time with the NPO Saturn “Product 30” engine, which will be the production standard for the Sukhoi Su-57.

    Sukhoi has built and flown nine flight test prototypes of the Su-57 fighter powered by NPO Saturn Product 117 engines, which are derived from the AL-41F-1S afterburning turbofans developed for the Su-35.


    But the Russian air force plans to replace the Product 117 in series production starting in 2020 with the Product 30 engines, possibly featuring a new engine core of which few details are known.


    Russian government officials have said the Product 30 will provide more thrust and fuel efficiency, with reduced weight and maintenance requirements.

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    The 5 December test flight by Sukhoi chief test pilot Sergei Bogdan from the Gromov flight test centre at Zhukovsky AB lasted 17min, according to Russia’s Ministry for Industry and Trade.

    Photos and video of the flight shows the Product 30 installed in the No. 1, or port-side, engine position, with a Product 117 engine remaining on the starboard side. The Product 30 features a serrated engine nozzle, compared to the flat nozzle on the Product 117.

    The flight test was conducted by the second Su-57 aircraft prototype, also known as T-50-2.

    "This is proof of the high potential of Russian aircraft building, capable of creating highly intelligent advanced systems," says Russian Industry and Trade minister Denis Manturov.

    The Su-57 is expected to enter service as Russia’s first so-called fifth-generation fighter after the end of this decade, featuring some stealth technology, along with internal weapons bays and advanced sensors, including active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and infrared search and track cameras.

    Government testing of the Su-57 prototypes is nearing the end of the first stage, according to the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

    The Putin government is still assembling the next multi-year state armaments plan, which will decide the timing and the number of Su-57s purchased through 2027. But the Ministry of Industry and Trade still the current plan remains on track, with the Su-57 becoming Sukhoi’s largest military product by 2020.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...lies-first-su-57-fitted-with-new-prod-443899/



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=371VTv_jQE0&feature=youtu.be
     
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