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Sukhoi Tests New Radar Array for 5th-Generation Fighter

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  1. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    16:47 08/08/2012
    MOSCOW, August 8 (RIA Novosti)


    Russia’s Sukhoi aircraft maker has started tests of a new onboard radar system for its 5th generation T-50 fighter jet, the company said on Wednesday.

    The new X-band active phased array radar has been installed on the third prototype of the T-50 fighter and showed a stable and effective performance comparable with the most advanced existing radar systems.

    The radar has been developed by the Moscow-based Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design using elements of nanotechnology.

    It has an extended target acquisition range, works simultaneously in “air-to-airâ€￾ and “air-to-groundâ€￾ modes, allows attacking multiple targets, and provides electronic countermeasures capabilities.

    The T-50, also known as project PAK-FA, first flew in January 2010 and was first publicly revealed at the Moscow Air Show in 2011.

    At present, three T-50 prototypes are being tested under a PAK-FA test and development program while a fourth plane is expected to join the program this year.

    The Russian Defense Ministry is planning to purchase the first 10 evaluation example aircraft after 2012 and then 60 production standard aircraft after 2015.

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  2. Devil

    Devil Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    so they are basically creating 4 different prototypes and whoever wins is called t-50 :what:
     
  3. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    No,
    each prototype is made with a specific purpose to carry out test for a particular system installed on board
    it can be aero dynamics, engines, electronics, frame strength, etc ...

    The final model of the air craft thats made
    consists of all these feature in one plane and that would be the final T-50

    You can find a similar example with our LCA and other aircrafts all over the world.
     
  4. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    They're ALL T-50s.

    T-50 is Sukhoi's designation of the PAK FA prototype aircrafts. They're all the same aircraft outfitted independently to carry out different stages of testing. But essentially, they're all prototypes of the same design.
     
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    As per the article PAK-FA full-scle production would start by 2015, but why India gets first fighter by
    2019? Is 2019 the schedule for FGFA (twin-seat) or PAK-FA? From what Mikhail Pogosyan said earlier,
    "IAF would acquire 50 fighters of the Russian-version before the twin-seat FGFA is developed".

    Sukhoi PAK-FA | Wikipedia.org

    ^^look in the 2nd paragraph of the Variants > FGFA section
     
  6. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    The information on the wiki is outdated.

    Thus far, India has only signed preliminary design contracts with Russia to study and develop twin-seat version of the T-50 design. Then, it was recently announced that India would be acquiring upwards of 200 single-seat PAK FA, and about 36 twin-seat variants. The design and development of the twin-seat derivative has taken a backseat.

    India will acquire production variants in small numbers from Russia, until production facilities in India start churning them out in large numbers. Naturally that will take some time, because they haven't started construction of production facilities, allocated a developer, etc.
     
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    ^ russians are promoting the computer systems of the plane as very advanced. I think it was sergey bogdan who said the electronic pilot of the plane takes a lot of load off the pilot and works as a second pilot. may be thats the reason why two seater version took a backseat.

    anyways, two seater versions decrease the operating range by a big margin.

    There was also another methodology where the second pilot(wso) of one plane acting as wso of many planes around it. i.e., five to six single seater planes along with one two seater.
     
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    neil_diablos Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    To add to this, the prototypes are designated as T50-1, T50-2, T50-3 and so on with 1,2 or 3 indicating the prototype number. The third prototype for instance is called T50-3 which essentially means T50 prototype 3.
     
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    A person remotely operating in the aircraft will make pilots of single seat aircraft very uncomfortable
     
  10. booo

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    ^you didnt get it. did you ? the remote guy is the wso not pilot.
     
  11. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I assume you all have seen this: “The fifth generation aircraft is scheduled to be certified by 2019, following which the series production will start.â€￾

    Delays and challenges for Indo-Russian fighter

    I used to have a rule of thumb I used when estimating business projects, I figured ever cost down to the penny, then I doubled it, was usually pretty close.. Murphy's Second Law: Everything Takes Longer Than You Think and Costs More. So I figure you all are looking at 2022 to 2025 to have as many as a 100 PAK-FA of dubious quality and ability.

    I expect we will have X47 type combat aircraft by then that make the PAK-FA toast, you all really need to come up with plan B.
     
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  12. smestarz

    smestarz Lt. Colonel REGISTERED

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    Interesting observation, and to a point your rule of thumb is correct, but this might apply to PAK-FA, and does apply to F-35 too.. so now its upto you which thumb you want to apply, left or the right thumb... hahahah
     
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  13. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    By than USA will be united states of china.
     
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    Is it frustration that makes you take the cheap shots. I can understand that. Wonder what a PAK-FA will cost by 2025.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    "Cheap" word is now the exclusive property of US weapons industry as it is synonymus with china/USA
     
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