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Ten Imaginations for a Dreamed India

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    Ten Imaginations for a Dreamed India

    now days we read the political adds of different political parties going to election, like one as below. which gave me an idea to put my own view about a dreamed India, what i would advise from my side, as how we used to look on India while thinking on it as a successful nation when we used to have time with friends before I moved overseas for higher studies. :tup:

    what exactly we think, we need to have for a Dreamed India, like how we used to imagine at a time :coffee::


    here, I have detailed my own Ten Biggest Achievements of Independence of India as below, since the post#56 onwards in the thread as below, which would also have a read, i think :coffee:

    http://www.indiandefence.com/forums...ery-india-facts-about-india-4.html#post320400

     
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    1st; Maintain Foundation of Indian Democracy for the Life of India, the Nation

    Indian Democracy and it Values, we Proud on

    The meaning of Independence India got in 1947

    in short i may say,

    "as part of our freedom, there is no law in India which makes difference among the people based on religion/ race/ language/ state etc, there is no super human like British anymore in India, and now we pay taxes to that Indian government which use it for the purpose to help the people based in India, not for the WW1 and WW2 to help Britain. with providing Equal Rights to all and more opportunities to the weak part of Indian society like Dalits/ Women, in terms of reservations in jobs/competitive exams and that's fair. at the same time we proud to say that we had many minorities Presidents/ PMs/ Chief Ministers/ Governors/ Chief Justice/ IAS topper/ Bollywood superstar/ Cricket Team Captain etc, and we proud to say that we got this type of country from our elders who fought for our freedom and we are responsible to give the same type of country to our coming generation too. we just can't compromise our "Independence" for any reason. and we have to defend our Independence from any type of external threat, which we are currently facing in terms of Sectarian War mainly in North East, from the Bangladeshi infiltration..."

    => http://www.indiandefence.com/forums...9-illegal-immigration-drive-north-east-2.html

    "We now pay tax to that Indian government which use the tax money to help the people based in India itself, develop infrastructure in India to improve life of the people based in India, while before that we were paying tax to those British to help them in their wars. Mr Gandhi struggled to have Industries in India, who may then provide jobs to Indians and hence pay taxes to Indian government for the purpose to use this tax for the people based in India. and yes we have got that 'freedom', and trying to improve. and we now proud to say that we have made a place where the most deserving people get higher success, regardless in which family they took birth, (of any religion/ race/ language/state etc). and we hope India will become one of the best place to live by using their talent/ knowledge this way"
    :india:


    the above statement used the word "super human British" before 1947, frequent use of "freedom", "independence", as i prepared my above statement on 15th August this year........ the above statement has a clear sense to demonstrate "democratic structure" of India on the world platform, in terms of "Equal Rights" for all, "more opportunities" for weak part of society like Women/Dalits in different exams/ jobs, as we have. with putting concern over the growing threats of "Sectarian Wars" in north east region due to Bangladeshi Infiltration. here, Freedom/ Independence of India is defined in terms of "non-religious" foundation of Indian Democracy of Hindu Majority, and our Independence/ Freedom has the main threats from Sectarian Wars, fueled and funded by rogue neighbors of India......
     
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    2nd; Energy Consumption Equation to be based on Controlling Pollution of Cities

    Gas as The Prime Fuel for Vehicles in India

    Gas is the 'cleanest' "High Grade Energy", which may be used for vehicles too. its price is always cheaper than petrol/diesel, and would obviously be much cheaper than market rate for a long term contract for a high demanding market like India, the biggest market at the closest geo-graphical proximity to Iran. Iran, which has second largest gas reserve after russia too...... a gas pipeline with a big cross sectional area is needed, for a long term contract to cover the whole western region of india is needed at present, along with the current supplies of gas from eastern region we already have.....

    India needs to rely more and more on LNG for vehicles etc. first Gas engines are always bit cheaper than petrol and diesel and also its a very less polluting source of energy...... government would consider to reduce tax on those passenger vehicles which require gas to run its engine. once we imagined India to be having a type of tax system which would encourage the three categories of vehicles as below. :cheers:

    1st; 2 wheel drives like bike etc to be run by Petrol.

    2nd; Passenger four wheel vehicles like cars/buses/ auto ricksha etc to be run by Gas only, a majority at least by reducing taxes on gas engines and higher tax on diesel/petrol engines. (auto ricksha on electricity is also a concern.)

    3rd; Vehicles to transfer goods like trucks etc to be run by diesel, a cheaper fuel than Petrol to reduce transportation bill, while being operated outside cities.

    (with a separate tax systems for luxury cars, as we already have.)

    (and a Gas pipeline with a big cross sectional area from Iran would be the big concern in this regard, to fulfill demand of gas, which has the second largest gas reserve of world, and India is the largest market in its closest Geo-proximity. and this idea would get more strength with the recent news that pipeline under sea route is now cheaper than that of the pipeline on the surface too, hence avoiding any type of transit problems through pak too this way :tup:)

    => "Having metro rails in all the cities/ more modern express ways etc too", but these things are the basic things. its clear that you have to have more and more metro lines in cities, similar to other infrastructure projects. and we do see progress in this direction too, but we demand more expenditure on Infrastructure projects....... and yes, transferring a big portion of the city population to electric metro trains is the most Ideal way to reduce pollution of cities :india:
     
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    3rd; Having More and More Special Economic Zones

    for the person i think like, having more and more SEZs only means for progress. i even strongly favor all the infrastructure developments to be based on "primarily" supporting SEZs, which would be non-taxed for both, the industries for export purpose and also for domestic supplies. there would a way of developing infrastrucutre like high speed roads, ports, airports, water-electricity supplies in India etc, which would be 'primarily' meant to support SEZs. :india:

    for me, there is only and only one meaning of a "Progressive India", the number of SEZs it may built which would be at least of the same standard to that of Chinese ones. which would be properly supported by other infrastructure projects like ports, high speed roads, airports, water-electricity supplies, transportation etc :cheers:

    [​IMG]

    => SEZ units hit tax hurdles for domestic supplies | Business Line :facepalm:

    and as discussed above, now India needs to do much more to have more SEZs. we hope its number to be thrice by 2020, to meet the industrial growth target. India simply can't achieve its target to bring the manufacturing share to be around 25% of GDP target until we have "Structural Reform of Indian Economy", and having more SEZs is the first step in this regard.

    to prepare for the circumstances at 2020+, India does need a type of "Structural Reform" considering industrial production growth. India already have a range of Institutions, for high to low level skills, with new infrastructure projects like express way/ ports/ airport etc, along with reaching Youth Literacy rate closed to 90% soon. its filled with highly competent professionals, at a low salary, and only hurdle in this direction for having more SEZs........

    and we have been getting news that acquiring farmers lands has been the main issue in this regard. and here we find an Asian country like Singapore to be a type SEZ as a whole country, then why this big country like India has so much problems in acquiring lands for SEZs? we had this type of problems in 50s and 60s also when the government wanted to lay down roads and there used to be much resistances from the same type of farmers demands. then why can't India acquire the prime lands by 'forceful' methods, as it were adopted before also, for the key infrastructure projects in 50s to 80s? i mean, if a land of farmer cost 1.0 lacs per 1000 square feet then just through 3.0 lacs for those lands and get it????? and if there is more resistance then just through 5.0lacs+, 5 times, for the same type of land?????

    such a big country like India, which is even net exporter of food grains but it faces problems for acquiring lands for SEZs, just because of farmers?, i always doubt why???? :coffee:
     
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    4th; No Above the Nation

    only those would be allowed to live in India who understand 'The Values' of Father of Nations, as below :india:

    few key points is as below:- :tup:

    A leader as a single person represents many millions.

    when motive of even the father of nation is suspected, his prestige must go.

    Rise and fall of India is determinant of sum total of quality of her many millions :india:

    non-violence to be the basis on any domestic or geo-political issue etc :india:


    as per letter of Mr Gandhi, written to second father of nation, Netaji S.C.Bose as below :india:

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    continue by tomorrow..... :tup:
     
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    3rd; vehicles to transfer goods like trucks etc to be run by diesel.

    no they must be converted into electric at least that mostly run on high ways. High range and bad terrain vehicles can still run on diesel for more power
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    simply transport using electric trains trucks should be used between godown to railway station and reverse.

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    first i appreciate your question as this is what we need to make this thread impressive :tup:

    from here, we have domestic production of oil too, and we find diesel prices are always cheaper than that of Petrol. hence we want to know, how would we use diesel, which is at least 25% cheaper than Petrol in India, but produces more carbon ....(while i found diesel prices were expansive than Petrol in Australia.)

    for example, we have under recovery of 7.4 rupees on diesel price for the current fortnight and its price is around Rs 55 in market. so even if we have its price Rs 62, its still 25% cheaper than Petrol at current price Rs 80. and the cheaper fuel is the best to be used for transportation of goods/ products, if its major operation is done in regional areas, outside cities. a fuel which is always cheaper than Petrol, at least by 25% in India, and its vehicles are mainly used outside cities, which all meant for a reduced price of goods transportation while using the oil produced domestically :cheers:
     
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    5th; Establishing Homeland Security as a National Priority

    we need a strong homeland security system, which would link all the government's systems of the country to achieve the common goals. and i have some more ideas in this regard, along with the goals/mission/vision etc Indian systems already have, for their purpose to establish a proper homeland security :tup:

    1st; a common civilian must have at least 2 identity card, while walking on the streets. Youth Literacy Rate of India would touch 90% by this year, and it means that the common civilians are responsible to to declare their identity at any time, whatever requested by a police man. along with Voter ID card, a civilian must be able to show at least one more ID, either Pan card/ DL/ birth certificate, to avoid going to police custody for a while, until he/she manage to show at least 2 IDs....

    2nd; every person taking birth must have a birth certificate. and not having the same must bring punishment for the parents of that certain kid taking birth.

    3rd; India needs to make its systems more "EFFECTIVE" now to face the global challenges, which won't be handicapped by any political party..... something like, a proper Home Land Security with bringing the different departments together to achieve the common goal, which would be linked with each others, no matter which party comes in power. and hence the whole system would then work as a single system to ensure the security of the nation as whole. an EFFECTIVE enough system which may put any person on the trial, if he/she doesn't do his/her honestly, violate laws while his employment for personal benefits. and example of Mr PVN Rao must be given to all those who may come in power, of any party :india:
    (and why not, its not just India but we have example of many other Democratic countries where there was no law to defend the corrupts PM/President, when they didn't do their duty honestly. whether former pres of US, Mr B.Clinton who could hardly avoid punishment for having sex with his secretory during working hour, former Indonesian Pres Mr Suharto was sent to jail for corruption, former Italian PM was also sent behind the bars last year, bla bla.)


    4th; we need a system which would be 'primarily' meant to defend those people who are building the nations, mainly top businessmen/ celebrities and other influential people, who have influence on the society to an extent.... and the concept behind it, "there is no meaning to sacrifice lives of our soldiers on the border if we can't defend those who are building the nation. who have influence on the society to an extent" :disagree:

    for example of top business people/ billionaires, who are billionaires not because they have money in pocket, but they billionaires in terms of the industries they have, which provides employments, generate high taxes on the their businesses. the tax revenue which the government use for helping common people/ build infrastructure. their industries also introduce new technologies to improve overall life of common Indian civilians this way. (for example, how cheap mobile service has changed life of common people to an extent.). i even favor a Cabinate level security for the top 50+ businessmen of India. (while hoping that these businessmen may afford to pay for the expanses of their security too, if the government ask.) and I would like to see its start from the gentleman as below :india:

    Have already given 25% of my wealth to charity: Azim Premji, Wipro - Economic Times :spartak:

    similarly we need a reasonable level of security for other businessmen, influential people of India, who have enough influence on the society, and hence they must be defended by the systems of Indian society too. we won't reach a day when our these honored businessmen/celebraties/other influential people may become toys on the hands of those who may then use these people against Indian society itself :disagree:


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    I think, the businessmen may themselves pay for the expanses, if the government ask. while it may be little expansive for the lower order businessmen/celebrities etc, so it would be negotiated :tup:


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    a very fair question and I appreciate your contribution in this thread. from here, could you please let us know, what good you find in this post which is about giving special status to those people who are building this country? I mean, do you find few good things in my post, what exactly I meant to say here?

    (there is a difference between Arts and Science and when we deal with the Arts, if we lose something on the one aspect then we gain on other side at the same time. thats true.....)

    from here, please check this news as below and make a comment on it. why the 'would be' largest selling car of India, the cheapest car, the NANO's manufacturer preferred to move to Gujarat from West Bengal? while even Kolkatta, one of the 4 metro, is located in this state? what exactly the Gujarat provides to the businessmen/influential people/ celebrities, which has very high growth rate in India even if it already has high base of income, but still its growth rate is very high due to high level of industrialization, and hence generating more taxes, employment, prosperity, new technologies this way????

    hence here, how exactly West Bengal's government is good for its people, while not helping those businessmen who may bring prosperity to this state???????


    => we always find top celebrities, influential people of India finding Gujrat a better place to live, and why?

    Sachin Tendulkar's villa in Ahmedabad Golf Club - Times Of India



    => Im also running a thread concerning Homeland Security as below. and the post below must have a place within this post, i think....


     
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    Thanks, this is good info and stats on important ideas.

    It would be nice however to tackle some more fundamental social issues rather than simply infrastructure. Technology and infrastructure is of course essential however we should ultimately be able to set milestones of our capability relative to that of our rivals; India has a great deal of potential, but it must be properly mobilitzed. Efforts to hold our own against Europe and China in rate of progress and growth (social and technological) will necessarily involve some more basic structural reform to society and culture.
     
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    i have opened a thread with my own thinkings, based on experience, which will be revised on time to time too. i would finish with my 10 Imaginations for a Dreamed India soon, and then we all can share ideas of each others too :tup:

    but first i would put at least 10 points to make this thread interesting, i think. as im 37, having enough readings in life, and i think i may present enough to others by 10 points, from where we may think further, including revising my own 10 points, which im still thinking :cheers:
     
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    6th; Zero Tolerance on Cross Border Infiltration

    There can't be any proper Homeland security until you may successfully seal your border against cross border infiltration. you can't just imagine to have any type of security until you put a control over foreign interference, mainly over the cross border Infiltration, specially in the North East States from where many infiltrators move to rest of India too......

    I have prepared few posts on this issue concerned with Bangladeshi infiltration as below, which may have a place here too :tup:

    => http://www.indiandefence.com/forums...9-illegal-immigration-drive-north-east-2.html


     
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    7th; Maintain and Reduce The Traditional Crime Rate, at any Price
    Japan must be considered as a Role Modal to build a Prosper India, with Lower Crime Rate too :india:


    here, we have a legend to learn from the mistakes of today's industrialized nations, and we find there are mainly 2 categories of Developed Nations. one with very low crime rate, which includes Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea type Asian Industrialized nations. while on the other side we find US and many other Wealthy Countries gained wealth along with very high crime rate too, no matter how much Welfare/Social Security/Medicare etc they provide to their people. and India must learn from these nations, there must be a study on the high crime rate of US/West, before India become a Rich nation. :india:

    we have data's of 2008 as below, before recession in US so it does mean that this analysis explains the peak of US, it had till 2008. and there must be a common consensus among all the political parties, systems of India that India must maintain 400 or below criminal incidents per 100,000 population in future too, even if it maintain low growth rate also, but we want crime rate of India to be lower than what it traditionally maintained till 2008, as below :india:

    for example, Indian politicians, bureaucrats, senior position holders in security agencies may sit altogether and discuss, "what if India register only 2% growth rate for the next 20 years, will it help us maintain the current crime rate, with a space to reduce it too? and even if we get (-)ve growth rate from today, is it a better option as compare to have high growth rate and then have a very high Crime Rate society like Rich US/West? or, we may learn something from Japan, which has Buddhist background, means having some similarities with Indian cultural background too, to maintain low crime rate, along with high Growth Rate :india:"



    The Role Modal of Asia, The Japan :spartak:

    here we find Japan's prison rate at very close to India, even if its the most advanced nation of Asia, while owning the best technologies of world, which was developed by the Japanese people itself, (in contrast to USA which mostly hired migrant professionals.) and the reason behind it, the "Likelihood of being a Vitim" is itself very low at 13.11, the lowest due to their Cultural Background, i think. here we find Japan refusing to accept that being a rich nation means for high crime rate too :partay:

    => List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Im also running a thread to study High Crime Rate of US/West as below :tup:

    http://www.indiandefence.com/forums...study-high-crime-rate-us-west.html#post382132
     
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