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Ten Imaginations for a Dreamed India

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    Preparing Industries for the Circumstances at 2020+

    its good to see but i strongly believe that this type of news would mean to show gains on the domestic level only, not on the trade side. you do need enough to outperform Chinese goods in the world market. but yes this would definitely help you maintain or reduce your trade deficit for the next few years.
    (trade data's of India since 2011 shows export at $300billion and import at $500billion, almost same for the last 3 years, hence having trade deficit at around 66% to total export. while even if China's export is well over $2.0trillion, it register Trade Surplus by a good margin :coffee:

    List of countries by exports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    List of countries by imports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    and its good to see Indian home industries taking enough breath due to fall of Indian Rupees, while its is estimated that the currency is around 17.6% over valued at Rs 60/ UD$

    Even at 60 levels, rupee still 17.6% overvalued: Nomura


    => you won't be able to beat Chinese firms in terms of cheap labor and there are certain reasons behind it. and the first one is its population, which is around 1.4billion. and even if it reach Middle Class number at 700million by 2020, it will still have half of the population as the cheap source of labor. which is closed to even total population of US+EU at around 700million......

    and second, its industries are now going to be in competition to Western once, hence you do know that having competition with China is going to be as tough as with many major industrialized nations. only cheap labor isn't going to help you on the world market :no:. and from my side, i may say that if you wish to beat China on the international market then you have to prepare an India which would beat East Asian countries by 2020, (Japan/Korea/Taiwan). as you do know, even if your industries won't be able to reach this certain state, Chinese firms look very determined to beat its western rivals within just 5-6 years from now :wave:

    and from here, when you wish to come in competition with OECD economies, you have to keep eyes on the table as below too, where China is going to get the first spot within just 5-6 years from now, highly likely :tup:

    => List of countries by patents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    => Patents simply means to have new technologies to beat your OECD rivals. here i do remember our usual talks within the last firm i was employed with, with my boss Mr KJ Lawrance in WMA Ltd, he generally used to say while our trips to clients that we are going to see a time when Japanese firms would start copying Chinese technologies, very soon. :coffee:

     
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    it has been a major issue of discussion about India, as half of the population just struggle to live somehow. i find this issue is mainly related to population control and reduce it to at least below 700 million, no more than twice to that of at the time of 1947 (341million population in 1947). here we welcome your contribution in the thread as below :tup:

    http://www.indiandefence.com/forums/national-politics/18272-consequences-high-population-5.html



    => we now have around 300million Middle Class, along with no less than 500million 'Under Class', whose kids are quite competent on the international exams like GRE, GMAT, one for medicines etc. few of the news about their dominating performance is as below. here we find US institutes having high scores due to international students, is it also related to "Malnourishment" :coffee:


     
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    Odd isn't it, India has 1.3 billion people but US wins more medals in one event then India does in the entire Olympics.


    India only has one university in the top 500 in the world, none the top 500.


    Indian Institute of Science (IISc) is the only institution that figures somewhere between 300 and 400 in the list

    India’s higher educational institutions have once again failed to find a respectable place in the world’s top 500 universities.

    Bangalore-based Indian Institute of Science (IISc) is the only institution that figures somewhere between 300 and 400 as ranked by the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) for 2013.

    American universities have captured 17 positions of the top 20 slots, with two going to the British universities and one being occupied by the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology at Zurich. Of the 500 universities ranked, American universities captured a total of 182 slots; European universities occupied 200 slots — but only three made the top 20. As many as 17 Chinese universities were included as well.

    Harvard University has been described as the world’s best university with a score of 100; followed by Stanford University with a score of 72.6. University of California, Berkeley; Massachusetts Institute of Technology; and University of Cambridge have scored around 71 points.

    The IISc has just about held on to its last year’s slot but improved its performance in the Departments of Chemistry and Computer Science. In the former, the Institute has jumped two ranks from 45 in 2012 to 43 this year and in the latter from a range of 101-150 in the past to 51-75 in 2013.

    In Natural Science and Mathematics, and Engineering Technology and Computer Science, the score remains stagnant, ranging between 151-200 and 76-100 respectively.

    ARWU, also known as Shanghai Rankings, considers every university that has any Nobel Laureates, field medallists, highly cited researchers, or papers published in Nature or Science. In addition, universities with significant amount of papers indexed by the Science Citation Index-Expanded (SCIE) and the Social Science Citation Index (SSCI) are also included. In total, more than 1000 universities are actually ranked, and the best 500 are published on the web.

    Universities are also ranked by several indicators of academic or research performance, and the per capita academic performance of an institution. For each indicator, the highest scoring institution is assigned a score of 100, and other institutions are calculated as a percentage of the top score
    Only one Indian institute in the top 500 world universities - The Hindu
     
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    hmmm, thats the reason why people go for foreign studies, but my last post was regarding competency of students, who get admission in the universities of US/UK/ west......

    there is still a difference between Tata Motors and BMW/MCD and no need to bring these two categories together, at least till 2020 :coffee:

    from here, could you please tell us the 'ratio' of US's professionals working for high tech industries of US/EU? few of the news we used to get on time to time as below? (US born professionals must be less than 10% to professionals teams, check.). most of the US's high tech firms recruit only office worker/ work shop employee from US's civilians :wave:



    => hmmmm performance of Indian team haven't been good in Olympics, on the side of sports as whole, in fact. but we do get some good news in this regard in Commonwealth games, Asian games etc as below :coffee:

    => CWG 2010 Medals Tally
     
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    Hey [MENTION=268]Averageamerican[/MENTION] , do not think too much about Indian IQs.... For our future indigenous technology, only one man is enough ....... He is NaMo ........._/\_
     
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    The extent to which desis have made an impact in the US was reeled off in the Rajya Sabha — as many as 12% scientists and 38% doctors in the US are Indians, and in NASA, 36% or almost 4 out of 10 scientists are Indians.

    If that's not proof enough of Indian scientific and corporate prowess, digest this: 34% employees at Microsoft, 28% at IBM, 17% at Intel and 13% at Xerox are Indians.

    36% of scientists at NASA are Indians: Govt survey - Times Of India


    No one in here is silly enough to believe the above I hope..
     
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    Doubt if any of you are as stupid as your politicans.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India_rising_in_US_G...

    WASHINGTON: It's an Internet myth that has taken on a life of its own. No matter how often you slay this phony legend, it keeps popping up again like some hydra-headed beast.

    But on Monday, the Indian government itself consecrated the oft-circulated fiction as fact in Parliament, possibly laying itself open to a breach of privilege. By relaying to Rajya Sabha members (as reported in The Times of India) a host of unsubstantiated and inflated figures about Indian professionals in US, the government also made a laughing stock of itself.

    The figures provided by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Purandeshwari included claims that 38 per cent of doctors in US are Indians, as are 36 per cent of NASA scientists and 34 per cent of Microsoft employees.

    There is no survey that establishes these numbers, and absent a government clarification, it appears that the figures come from a shop-worn Internet chain mail that has been in circulation for many years. Spam has finally found its way into the Indian parliament dressed up as fact...
     
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    further to the above post, also we find US's dominating performance in Olympics for hardly 12-15 years, since 1994 to 2004 only, when first spot was then taken by China. till 1990 SU was dominating the Medal Tally, and we do know that growth rate of China made a similar growth in its medals in Olympic too. and as a growing economy, China would only exceed its performance in future.....

    USA was well placed at 3rd rank in 1998 medal Tally as below
    Olympic - Summer games, Seoul 1988

    and again it came down to 2nd place to China, and i don't think USA may exceed its performance in future :coffee:
    Olympic - Summer games, Beijing 2008

    (in fact, it was on 2nd place by 1992, after SU that year too. this way USA enjoyed top rank only for the 12 years since 1996 with ending by 2008 :coffee:
    Olympic - Summer games, Barcelona 1992).



    => from here, China also have only a few universities in top 500 of your list. from here, how much is the credibility of these western rankings???? :what:
     
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    along with the news about poverty etc about India, we have a picture of changing India as below, which may have a place here too, i think :tup:






     
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    If I recall right its a Chinese ranking.

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    See this video... I've posted it only for Introspection, not for any ego.. Thanks to [MENTION=8797]sunny_10[/MENTION] for this video !
    This Is why American need Indians - YouTube
     
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    India Needs a 10 Years City Infrastructure Development Plan

    first, there is a book knowledge that, "for every dollar invested, you get 66cents, 66% return through Direct and Indirect taxes." and this definition is mainly applicable if the investments are done on Infrastructure. :cheers:

    (for example, if you build a road of $5.0billion, then the employers paying taxes on their salaries, the companies supplying products/materials also paying taxes, and the sources of supplied materials also have to pay taxes on the products/material supplied. which all fall in Direct Taxes. and then we use our 'after tax' salaries/profits in market to purchase daily uses products, buy cars/home/products etc, which all again result in generating Indirect taxes as even the shops pay taxes, you buy daily usage products...... its all good if the money is kept within the country, specially while investment on Infrastructure. :)

    this way, more and more you do investment in Infrastructure, better it is. and don't forget that China is still a developing country, they first have to have high investment in electricity, roads, bridges, metro trains etc, which all means for basics of life in a developed country :tup:

    and as India type developing country will grow by at least 6%+ by the next 30years+, we expect it to have higher expanses on Infra projects. even if it reach Public Debt at 120%+ to GDP by 2020, for example, and it borrows $2.0trillion extra by 2020 this way, along with the existing $1.0trillion plan for the next 5 years, its still very good considering its effects on accelerating growth due to high investments and the positive effects of well developed infrastructure on growth from 2020+, hence reducing debt level since then onward :india:

    I would advise a 10 Years City Infra Development Plan, along with the existing 5 years plan which mainly covers investment in power projects/ regional developments like roads, ports etc. and this 10 years plan would mean to develop infrastructure in the cities, in terms of metro trains, bridges, expressways, parks etc. and it would have at least double expenditure to that of 5 years plan. for example, say $3.0trillion infra development in 20 major cities by 2025 :india:
    (and considering 7%+ growth due to higher investments in Infra Projects, along with 7% inflation too, we find Nominal GDP of India reaching at least $6.0trillion+ by 2025 itself.....)

    with that, i strongly favor SEZ development to be categorized as Infrastructure Projects, giving more strength to the SEZ developers in acquiring lands by paying 5-6 times to the land prices too, if required. similar to how roads were laid down in 50s and 60s by forceful way to acquiring lands, with paying higher price to the farmers that time too, true :india:
     
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