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Terror Attack Alert: Bomb blast in London underground train

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by lca-fan, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. _Anonymous_

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    Just like you'd have been a superpower till date with the "jewel" in your crown.
     
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    Let's tackle the half baked bilge you've dished out one by one -
    The Afghan counter insurrection was payback by the US for Vietnam more than anything else .One of the first considerations in post conflict societies is to ensure a power vaccum is avoided .The moment the former SU pulled out of Afghanistan , US attention sagged and was promptly diverted to the Gulf courtesy Saddam Hussein's shenanigans in Kuwait .The ramifications of that single I'll advised move and to leave the destiny of Afghanistan to Pakistan is there for all to see .

    The US has repeated this behaviour since , withdrawing from Iraq pre maturely when they had no business getting into it in the first place ( all that scandalous "evidence " of a NWP with toothy Tony Blair playing pooch in chief to thief in chief in the White House . See , what goes around comes around .One of the reasons why DPRK or even Pakistan will never surrender their N weapons is coz they've witnessed what happened to Saddam and Qaddafi who voluntarily shut down his nations NWP. In Iran's case too what has been secured is a moratorium .Iran's N capabilities remain intact .But I'm digressing ...), initiating regime change in Syria and Libya .
    If you really wanted to create a jihadi magnet all you had to do was create a conflict zone to attract jihadis the world over and sort them out once and for all .If this was the original intention , the US , UK and it's allies aren't doing a bad job .

    India didn't want to be associated with any of the prevalent camps then - the US led or the former SU led camps - a fact that didn't go down well with the Truman and subsequent Eisenhower administrations .Add to that Churchill returning to power briefly in the 1950's , the contempt with which the UK foreign office treated India's aspirations & the fact that Pakistan whole heartedly embraced US led anti communist initiatives formerly joining the CENTO / Baghdad pact with an eye on checkmating India all sealed the deal in Pakistan's favour and forever caused the West to eye India suspiciously .

    The Goa liberation came about in 1961 - a territory that's as legitimately Indian and on which India has rightful claims in a way neither Scotland nor N Ireland can legitimately be considered part of the UK. India moved closer to the SU in the aftermath of the 1962 Sino Indian conflict & the 1965 conflict when in the aftermath of the latter conflict , it's appeal for arms was denied by McNamara in the Johnson administration. I will cease getting into intricate details here save to paint broad strokes . India signed the 20 year Peace and Friendship Pact with the SU only after the Sino US detente as an insurance policy before it initiated the 1971 war to liberate Bangladesh .

    Well , the Muslims would be justified if they see it as payback for the way the British dealt the deathblow to the Mughal Empire .Most Pakistanis seem to think they're the spiritual legatees if not actual heirs to the Mughal Empire in South Asia . If the Syrians or Libyans or the Iraqis initiate such acts of Rebellion in the UK , can you actually blame them ? You've already given them a Casus Belli.

    See the fact that most Indian posters label this and many forthcoming incidents as acts of Rebellion by Muslim rebels in Londonistan as one of those fallouts of" the tactics required to win the Cold War ."

    "You've asked for it .May you have it !! " It's a wonderful song .My favourite actually after " Its a small world after all ."
     
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  3. An Indian

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    It takes time to change the fortunes of 1.2B people. The story starts with building strength and stamina and that takes time.

    Have you any idea of the difference that has happened between 2014 and now? Your comment is shallow because you have not dug in deep to understand the differences on the ground. Yes, there's stuff that can derail the momentum but so far the momentum has just been building and building...
     
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  4. BMD

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    Nope, the entire Cold War was about stopping the spread of Soviet influence and Communism. Every single war was, starting with the Korean War. Gulf War II was about assuming Iraqi could live peacefully under a democracy. It was a miscalculation. They also saw that sanctions levelled against Hussein were affecting the civilians, which was probably a driver of terrorism.


    That's pretty much what I said, you played your hand badly during the Cold War.

    Goa had been Portuguese since before the US existed and has a GDP/Capita 3 times India's average. And actually both Scotland and NI have had referendum on the issue of being British, so yes they can be considered British by self-determination. So you sided with Stalin, hence where you are now, your own fault.


    Wait, I thought the Indian dealt the death blow to the Mughal Empire. What is this Casus Belli? Removing a dictator and giving them democracy? Your view of the world is perverse to say the least.



    So now you're justifying terrorism. You are the BBC of this forum.
     
  5. BMD

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    Mostly just the population that is growing.
     
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    Nope. Trying to feed 1.2bn Indians would have bankrupted us and political and diplomatic pressure would have forced us to feed them too, whereas your own government gets away with it because they've convinced you to blame us for what they're still doing. Being a superpower required bags of money to spend on nukes and ICBMs. Feeding India would not have helped with that. Malaysia and Singapore would have been far more useful to hang on to.
     
  7. An Indian

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    Excellent!!! You must keep those perspectives. They will keep good you in good humor. Gives us the time we need.

    In the meantime, I guess Theresa May will do the rounds again, cap in hand (or rather all a bedecked in a saree of all things) for investments!!!
    Good luck!!!
     
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    It will take some time bro...
     
  9. BMD

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    I know, I'm just straightening out folk who are predicting a ten-year turn around.
     
  10. BMD

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    London is already the most invested in city in the whole EU anyway.
     
  11. GSLV Mk III

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    Still not as good as how BBC does it.
     
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    Doesn't matter. It was people of Goa who demanded freedom from Portugal.
     
  13. GSLV Mk III

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    She'll be shown the door, once more. :lol:
     
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  14. BMD

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    Is that why the Indian National Congress never achieved electoral success there for 2 decades after its incorporation? Very few demanded independence.

    And I wonder why Puducherry is never mentioned. Yes, France invaded you too. So when I say, if Britain hadn't invaded the rest of India, someone else would have, you can be damn sure that's the truth.
     
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    Which will still leave us with a GDP/capita of $43k and you with $2k. Smart thinking.
     

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