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The Air Force Wants a New Fighter to Accompany Its New Stealth Bomber

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by randomradio, Sep 23, 2016.

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    Each radar has different modes that are readily altered. The algorithm itself is unpredictable too. Frequency hopping just adds another dimension of unpredictability.
     
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    but the software program is same and once you read it, your own SPECTRA will know how to defeat it. Take the example of a book. each page starts with a different letter and substance. An alogrhythm is also like that, you can start it from zero point or 25% down or 50% down or whatever but it will follow a set pattern and once you know that set pattern of change of ECCM, the radar is compromised.
    To explain it further, The system like SPECTRA will memorise the entire book and everyline of it. The moment it detects a text from that book, it will know what is the next line and page of that book and will act accordingly to block it. Some call it AI, I call it memory.
     
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    Only if it can work out the algorithm, which may not be possible in the time available. Hence why AI jamming systems are being worked on, to calculate such algorithms.

    How long is the pattern though? What if it applies components like e or Pi. Some encryptions would take years to break even using brute force with a supercomputer, so zero chance Spectra could do it during an engagement, and if they did, switch mode, same problem again.

    I've said it before but Spectra is not all it's cracked up to be.
     
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    The processing power is doubling every three years and size of electronics reducing by half every five years. Can you deny it? faster and larger amount data needs to be analysed to do ECCM. At the same time the ability to change ECM of radars has also increased BUT the limit is AI. Human brain has no such limit. So till we find a way to replace human brain, we are stuck with alogrhythms.
     
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    And even now, there are Petaflop supercomputers that take longer than a life time to brute force the best encryptions and encryptions are also improving, with the likes of quantum encryption. ECCM can also be responsive, e.g. other sensors on aircraft detect jamming signal and the algorithm changes.
     
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    I agree with you but the problem is that they have to follow the rules as written in their software and that can be compromised.
     
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    Software can be changed and Rafale has no RF cyberwarfare capability, it is a first gen AESA only.
     
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    I think you are wrong just the way I was wrong when I commented about SPECTRA based on my knowledge of the system of 2013.
     
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    GaN?
     
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    It does not have cyberwarfare. As part of the Radar 2 upgrade, as well as the radar having cyberwarfare they will be moving the IFF system to wing roots and upgrading to AESA antennae, to also apply cyberwarfare for other purposes at differing bandwidths.
     
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    GaN improves range but it RF attack and RF cyberwarfare are separate, more advanced functions.
     
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    No, you said it's a first gen AESA.
     
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    Rafale does not have GaN. When it does, it will be Gen 1.1.
     
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    It will soon be in production.
     
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    2024 for in-service but still no RF attack or cyberwarfare.
     

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