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The Air Force Wants a New Fighter to Accompany Its New Stealth Bomber

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by randomradio, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. randomradio

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    What? Dude, are you talking about the radar or EW? Make up your mind.

    Spectra can already do RF and cyber attack.
     
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    No it can't. Spectra can only do RF attack and it's fundamentally less powerful and less effective than a radar at it.
     
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    Radar does less than Spectra. There's something called array choreography. When radar does EA, it is only using a few modules, no different from Spectra.

    Cyber EA is very old. Spectra can do that.
     
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    No, it's actually something very new provided by the ultra-high bandwidth of AESA radars. Spectra does not do it, prove otherwise.

    The radar can use all modules to jam and has more power and a narrower beam, so it can jam one target better, or more targets at once than Spectra.
     
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    What ultra-high bandwidth? I really need the shit you smoke.

    More targets, yes, but that would make it useless for other functions.

    Why do you need narrower beam? You are not using EA to classify a target.
     
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    The ability to transfer data really fast. Show me anything saying Spectra has RF cyberwarfare capability. It plainly does not.

    http://armadainternational.com/assets/images/pdf/Aircraft_Self-Protection.pdf

    An AESA has an extremely agile beam and can rapidly move between jamming and detection.

    More jamming power means more effective jamming at closer ranges.
     
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    TRAGEDAC. But that has nothing to do with jamming.

    Yes, Spectra has been doing this since before 2007.
     
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    That's networking not cyberwarfare.

    Spectra has less jamming power and a wider, less discreet beam though. Also no cyberwarfare.
     
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    Since when did GaN give you lesser jamming power and less discreet beam?
     
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    Spectra apertures are small, ergo less powerful and the because the antenna diameter it smaller, the beam is wider and covers a larger area, so less discreet.
     
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    You are assuming the entire radar will be used for jamming, that's useless. You don't need smaller beam, you don't need more than tens of watts of power either.

    Just because the radar can jam doesn't mean it will use any more power or modules than the Spectra does.
     
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    Depends on the kind of jamming and how close and how many sources you're jamming at once. Spectra emitters are smaller and ergo less capable.

    Large power can be used to blind enemy radar receivers outright.
     
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    Compared to the number of modules actually assigned for jamming, the Spectra may actually have more.

    Only in 1990s.
     
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    Radar uses all modules to narrow beam width, the power output it can vary.

    Nope, still a technique used now and it's far more reliable against higher technology radars that are less prone to deception of cancellation jamming, e.g. AESA and quantum. You can simply blind them across the entire frequency band they're using. That's how that Mi-8? based jamming system the Russians use works.
     
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    No, the new Russian jammers are smart jammers. They don't use noise jamming.
     

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