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The F-35 Won't Be Able To Fire A Shot Until 2019 Due To The Latest Technical Problem

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  1. tusharm

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    The F-35 Won’t Be Able To Fire A Shot Until 2019 Due To The Latest Technical Problem | Defenceradar News

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    The much vaunted new F35 stealth jet has run into fresh problems with a software glitch meaning that it will not be able to use its on-board cannon.

    Even though the jet, which is costing American taxpayers nearly $400 billion (£257 billion) will enter service next year, reports in America say it will take a further four years before it will be able to shoot its gun.

    This will cause huge embarrassment for the programme, which has been dogged by delays, soaring costs and glitches since its inception in 2006.

    Billed as the world’s most advanced – and expensive - fighter jet, the cost per plane has nearly doubled and it will be six years late in entering full production.

    The F35 has been the Pentagon’s flagship programme with 2,443 due to be deployed across all three services.

    However according to the Daily Beast, the F35 still does not have the software it needs to operate the four barrelled rotary cannon.

    This will be a particular problem when the aircraft is being used to support ground troops because a gun is more precise than dropping a small bomb in the area – with the latter more likely to cause friendly fire casualties.

    Earlier this year the F35 jump jet, which was supposed to be the star attraction at the Farnborough Air Show, failed to appear after the entire fleet was grounded following a fire at a Florida air base in June.

    Other problems for the fighter, which is being manufactured by Lockheed Martin, have included discovering that the engine can shut down when the fuel gets too hot to work as a coolant.

    In Britain, the Ministry of Defence has ordered 14 F35s, of which a handful are already being tested in the United States.

    A contract for the first four was signed a few months ago and the first stealth jets are due to operate from RAF Marham in Norfolk from 2018.

    Darren Staples/ReutersOrdnance is moved into a bunker at RAF Marham, England, on March 20, 2011.

    However in the United States there has been increasing criticism of the programme, even from within the administration.

    In January the Pentagon’s testing office described the F-35’s performance as “immature” and two months later the administration’s own accountability office highlighted delays in software delivery and its effectiveness.
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    The F-35 Won’t Be Able To Fire A Shot Until 2019 Due To The Latest Technical Problem | Defenceradar News

    The Pentagon’s fighter jet F-35 may not be fully operational until 2019 due to a newly discovered computer glitch. The $400 billion ultra-sophisticated jet, the most expensive in US history, was expected to enter service in 2015.

    F-35 is the fifth generation combat aircraft which is designed in three variations for US Air Force, Navy and Marines to replace out of date aircraft. It was planned to join the Marines in 2015 and Air Force in 2016.

    It is planned to replace the Air Force’s A-10 Warthog ground attack plane and Lockheed F-16 multirole fighter, the Navy instead of Boeing F/A-18 Hornet carrier-based fighter, and the Marines instead of Boeing AV-8B Harrier II jump-jet.

    However, the most awaited plane’s main weapon will not be able to fire due to a computer glitch. The four-barreled rotary cannon for the Air Force version of the F-35 cannot function until new software is elaborated, despite jet scheduled to join the army this year.

    “There will be no gun until [the Joint Strike Fighter’s Block] 3F [software], there is no software to support it now or for the next four-ish years,” an Air Force official affiliated with the F-35 program told the Daily Beast. “Block 3F is slated for release in 2019, but who knows how much that will slip?”

    This problem is especially acute as this version of the jet is planned for close air support (CAS) operations. While the F-35 is equipped with other armaments, it might be not enough.

    “Lack of forward firing ordnance in a CAS supporting aircraft is a major handicap,” an experienced pilot commented for the Daily Beast. “CAS fights are more fluid than air interdiction, friendlies and targets move… Often times quickly. The ability to mark the target with rockets and attack the same target 10 seconds later is crucial.”

    Equipped with a gun, Air Force’s F-35A version barely carries enough ammunition. Despite being able to shoot 3,300 rounds per minute, it will only be carrying 180 to 220 rounds.

    Daniel Hughes / U.S. Air Force / Handout via Reuters

    The two other versions of F-35 – for the Navy and Marine Corps – have different configurations with external gun pods, however, they will not have a software for them either, the Daily Beast reported.

    F-35 production has been facing delays and cost overruns due to numerous software problems and production defects. The jet which has already cost $400 billion dollars to US taxpayers since the program started in 2006. The costs doubled since the start of construction in 2011 making it the most expensive project in military history.

    However, the Pentagon denied the aircraft will be delayed, the International Business Times reports as well as neither Lockheed nor the F-35 Joint Program Office responded to inquiries.

    Last December, a problem with fuel was discovered. The engine of the aircraft can shut down when the fuel gets too hot to work as a coolant, although this information was disputed by the Pentagon.

    Last summer, the F-35 was supposed to be the star attraction at the Farnborough Air Show in Hampshire, but it did not appear after the entire fleet was grounded after a fire at a Florida airbase in June.

    The Pentagon plans to buy 2,433 jets in three variations. Great Britain has also ordered 14 jets. However, the program is getting more and more severe criticism.

    “To me, the more disturbing aspect of this delay is that it represents yet another clear indication that the program is in serious trouble,” an Air Force official told the Daily Beast. “F-35 maker “Lockheed Martin is clearly in a situation where they are scrambling to keep their collective noses above the waterline, and they are looking to push non-critical systems to the right in a moment of desperation.”

    The F35 is designed and built by American Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company which manufactures the widely spread military aircraft F-16, also known as the Fighting Falcon, successful all-weather multirole plane.



    Read more: Computer glitch prevents US’ most advanced F-35 fighter jet from firing until 2019 – report | Aviation & Air Force News at DefenceTalk

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  2. tusharm

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    So firing a gun for LCA should not be a priority & FOC could be granted without it since the best fighter of the world ( Self Proclaimed ) can't do this till 2019.
     
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    Lca has countless other problems we have no idea about,,the most important one being inability to use the radar fully due to a faulty radome which needs time.
     
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    And changing radome in an aircraft is a Big reason not to produce the Aircraft itself?
     
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    Who knows what else are the problems,,,clearly we don't know it all.
     
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    This only affects F-35A.

    The USMC F-35B and USN F-35C are not designed to have a cannon
     
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    @Anish so its another Vietnam in making where they add an external cannon (like F4 Phantoms)

    Why USMC has no cannon they are there to support the first ground offence ,will they fly another aircraft explicitly to carry out close support missions.
     
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    radome of LCA will be delivered by march + IFR probe will be installed in the same timeline.
    What other LCA problem's exist ????

    Have anyone seen a Naval Aircraft make a perfect first sky jump without the use of afterburners (at least not full afterburners).
     
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    Correct.

    International delivery of F-35A will start around 2020, so this issue is not a big deal...

    Please keep all things related to F-35 in the dedicated F-35 thread. Thanks..

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  10. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    International delivery perhaps, but national delivery? IOC for US Air Force is planned in June 2016, it will be without cannon or it will be postponed? And if it is a software problem it certainly affects also the use of external cannon.

    I think the best place for such a negative news is "The Flying White elephant".
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Not sure about the Vietnam thing you have mentioned but it's surely stupid to not place a basic thing such as cannon just to reduce weight of the aircraft

    A fair weather fighter with no cannon. It's not something I ever expected from Lockheed Martin which is the world's biggest and used to be the best aerospace complex
     
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    Fuked up 35
     
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    Russia only has 5 prototypes 5th gen in total (1 of them got blown up due to engine failure, so may be they currently have 4 prototypes), China is still in the process of observing how jet engine works, whereas US has almost 200 operational combat proven 5th gen in service and additional 150 have been built, and full production will kick off in a year or two when 1 unit of F-35 will be built every 24 hours. So, just calm the f down and no worries.
     
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    My evaluation of the situation is that it is not the last software glitch. I gave here long ago my estimate of the date when the F-35 will be ready to go to war: 2061. The end of the development of the F-35 is like the horizon, it moves away when you try to approach it.
     
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    I have explained to you several times, old man. Regarding with F-35 i will reply you in the dedicated F-35 thread, in the mean time you should mind your own business and consider the alternative tactics to be able to sell a single Rafail for the first customer...
     
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