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The Flying White Elephant

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picdelamirand-oil, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. Proxy1234

    Proxy1234 FULL MEMBER

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    Wouldn't it be prudent to settle Kurile then? Developing cross military ties takes longer in modern world with the complexities involved I guess?
     
  2. YarS

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    USA. They have more nukes, more allies, and they have no space to retreat. There are too many parasites, who can survive only when USA is robbing all other war.
     
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    I thought that too. Otherwise Russia would have solved Kurile dispute with Japan to counter China if it considered China as the ultimate threat.
    But @YarS what about Siberia and land north of Amur? Won't China try to get those when they become powerful?
     
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    YarS 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I very doubt in it. They have no reasons to do it, and they are too weak and vulnerable for it.
     
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    What about 20years in the future?
     
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    YarS 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Ha! Twenty years in future will start crisis of falling oil production in the Middle East. So, their will be growth of role hydroenergy, nuclear plants, gas and coal. But nuclear plants, dams, gas pipes are very vulnerable. Few hundreds of nukes and China will lost energies production and industry and agriculture. Hunger and riots. And yes, most of their rivers are flow in west-east direction, so they will need to rebuild many bridges to attack in sought-north direction.
    Next - they are genetically close to each other and different from most of Russians. I don't wanna say that we shall use biological weapon, but they must consider that opportunity.
    Next - most of China's are warm-lovers and sissies. Siberia will at least demoralize them.
     
  7. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    There is already lot of chinese in Siberia. I think Europe and Russia could have a military cooperation to keep Siberia to Russia.
     
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    Now the cost of F 35 is reaching 100 million USD, it is no more white elephant provided his excellent fighting capabilities.
     
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    There are near 34500 ethnic Chines permanently living in Russia (both citizens of Russia and not citizens), half of them - in the West part of Russia, most of them - in Moscow. Also there are seasoned workers and tourists. There are politic of stimulation China's economic migration in Russia (Law 473-FZ) - they are cheap workforce, but it is not very effective.
     
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    What about illegals?

    Your internal ministry claim that there are 2 million Chinese in Russia. Alexander Shaikin, in charge of controlling the Russian-Chinese border, said on June 29,2016 that 1.5 million people from China have illegally entered the Russian Far East over the past 18 months. Even if real numbers are 10th of that, they are enough to make Siberia Han majority.
     
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    HariPrasad 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    tell us about Indians in Russia.
     
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    Lol!
    I guess CIA is justified in its anti Russia stance against Trump then. :biggthumpup:
     
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    Ye chinese, where do the not intrude illegally?
     
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    Officially permanent living in Russia in 2010 there were 4058 ethnic Hindi. Plus students, tourists, etc.

    Also there are 205 thousands of Gypsies.
     
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    There are "Taiga law, and a bear as prosecutor". It is hard to survive in Siberia illegally. Some times are some poachers, illegal gathering of plants, gold, but nothing seriouse. And nobody is living for a long time.
     
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