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Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picdelamirand-oil, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Hmm read the second part, very precise questions about cost capacities etc. And yes they will be pitted against each other. In fact F-35 was considered as front contender until release of the RFP due to NATO B61 nukes stored in Belgium. We will see...
     
  2. Zen0

    Zen0 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    We should build our own planes , **** importing . We can build jets & send probes to mars indigenously .
     
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  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Australia pay $ 17 billion for 72 F-35 so $ 236,11 million per unit its not complicated.
    https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa...W46RlI&usg=AFQjCNEkQMfG06NzcFxY4472Oxe_0hDh3Q
     
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  4. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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  5. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Doesn't matter, I use the same methodology as AA.
     
  6. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Enter the 5th Generation F-35A: F-35 Makes Australian Debut at Avalon Air Show
    Royal Australian Air Force // March 03, 2017


    In an exhilarating day for Australian military air power, the F-35A Lightning II made its public debut at the Australian International Airshow.



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    Read the article on RAAF's site.

    After a journey of about 15,000km Australia’s first two F-35As displayed their power and manoeuvrability in the sky above Avalon Airport before landing in front of an enthused crowd.

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Defence Minister Senator Marise Payne, and Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne, met the F-35A pilots WGCDR Andrew Jackson and SQNLDR David Bell and their support crew before speaking to the media.

    Mr Turnbull said it was an exciting day for Air Force, Australian industry, technology and Australian jobs.

    “The F-35A is the most advanced fighter in the world,” he said.

    “We need to ensure our Defence force have the best capabilities and the greatest lethality.”

    The F-35A is a key addition to Australia’s strategic capability and a critical component of the $195 billion defence investment.

    The government is purchasing and will maintain 72 aircraft as part of the global Joint Strike Fighter program which will give Air Force the capability to combat future air threats to the nation.

    Senator Payne said there wasn’t anything like the landing of two F-35As in Australia to make a defence minister’s day.

    “This acquisition has been 15 years in the making and will make a game-changing difference to Air Force capability,” she said.

    “The F-35A will provide the Air Force with the ability to execute air combat missions which were previously beyond our scope.”

    The F-35A’s cutting edge stealth technology, sensors and the ability to share information across advanced networks will significantly strengthen the RAAF’s combat ability.

    Acquiring F-35A aircraft will also reinforce the ability of our Air Force to operate seamlessly with the United States and our coalition partners to support our shared strategic interests.

    Mr Pyne said the JSF program was maximising Australian industry involvement.

    “Already 32 Australian companies had reaped about $800 million in value into their businesses,” he said.

    The F-35A’s visit is an important step in Air Force’s transformation into a fifth-generation air force.
     
  8. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    At a cost of $ 236,11 million per copy for a useless pre production aircraft junk.
     
  9. Averageamerican

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    The 'lethal' F-35 fighter lands at Avalon
    March 3, 20172:40pm

    Christopher TalbotAustralian Associated Press
    Donald Trump is "very, very impressed" by Australia's defence spending, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said as he unveiled two of the nation's new F-35 fighter jets at the Avalon Airshow.

    The top brass of US and Australian defence joined the prime minister as the F-35As roared over Avalon Airport and paraded down the tarmac.

    Mr Turnbull said the jets were the most advanced in the world and would be used in the fight to destroy terrorists in the Middle East.

    "When we send our young men and women out to war, they have the tools to do the job, to destroy their enemies and the terrorists," Mr Turnbull told reporters on Friday.

    "This is the biggest investment in Australia in peace time. Nobody in the world, especially in Washington, would ever suggest Australia is not pulling its weight."

    The federal government is preparing to spend $17 billion on 72 of the F-35 aircraft, with the first expected to be delivered to Australia in 2018 and enter service in 2020.

    Capable of supersonic flight whilst retaining stealth, the F-35A has a top speed of 1975 km/h and "extraordinary manoeuvrability".

    The cost has been widely criticised, especially by US President Trump, but the jet's builders Lockheed Martin say the cost is expected to be driven down to $80 million per plane by 2020, F-35 Program general manager Jeff Babione told reporters on Friday.

    Defence Minister Marise Payne said the F-35s - along with the new Growler electronic attack fighter which was launched at the airshow on Tuesday - were lethal and would help connect the defence forces together.


    "They will allow missions that were previously beyond our scope," Ms Payne said at the launch on Friday.

    "The F-35 has an extraordinary ability to share information with other aircraft and the rest of the defence force and our coalition partners."

    This communication will also increase the effectiveness of older aircraft in Australia's defence fleet, Ms Payne said.

    The F-35As will be on display at the Avalon Airshow until Sunday when they will return to the US.
     
  10. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Sadly it had to stay one day more than expected due to potential lightnings... :scare:
     
  11. Averageamerican

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    U-2 Dragon Lady

    The U-2S is the most capable and reliable high-altitude intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) platform compared to any system flying today – manned or unmanned. While early models of the U-2 began service in the mid-1950s, production of today’s U-2S fleet was completed in the late 1980s, and is capable of delivering unparalleled performance beyond 2050 as the next generation of an American icon.
    Over the last 10 years, the U-2S underwent a complete technology rebuild, further improving its performance and mission capability.

    The U-2S is reliable, responsive and survivable, delivering an average 97 percent mission success rate; open architecture and modular payload capabilities, enabling new or unique sensors without customizing the aircraft or removing it from the fleet; and, the ability for field commanders to readily tailor sensors to the mission. The U-2S can dynamically task sensors within seconds to collect on emergent, time-critical targets, and supports global security requirements in all weather conditions – day or night.

    Additionally, a highly capable defensive suite enables the aircraft to survive sneak attacks and remain engaged during rapidly escalating hostilities or continue its mission during times when the presence of a threat is known or suspected, but not yet located.
     
  12. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Lot more to air war then just a fighter.
     
  13. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Bro, don't reply at his level. You know, pigeon, chess board.
     
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  14. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    it's relaxing :azn:
     
  15. Averageamerican

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    Estimated price by 2020 80 million each. Wow.
     

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