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The Flying White Elephant

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picdelamirand-oil, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    What is interesting is that it is the 3 th generation of helmet, that the bug exist from the first generation and is not fixed yet! And on the F-35 there is no HUD because it was specified that the helmet will do everything and then this problem is critic.
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Going to be a lot of bugs in a system as futuristic as the F35, but then we are not famous for the quote.
    Going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordion. Norman Schwarzkopf

    India needs to be aware of the fact that France and Dassualt don't have the capacity for back up of the Rafale in case of war. Manufacturing and logistics is just not available and never will be from France.
     
  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Have you heard of the Kargil War?
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Was really more of a conflict in which the Pakistan Air Force was not involved except for attacks by India.


    Date May–July 1999
    Location Kargil district, Jammu and Kashmir
    Result
    • India regains possession of Kargil
    Territorial
    changes
    None
    Belligerents
    [​IMG] India [​IMG] Pakistan
    Commanders and leaders
    [​IMG] Ved Prakash Malik [​IMG] Pervez Musharraf
    Strength
    30,000 5,000
    Casualties and losses
    Indian official figures


    • 527 killed[1][2][3]
    • 1,363 wounded[4]
    • 1 POW
    • 1 fighter jet shot down
    • 1 fighter jet crashed
    • 1 helicopter shot down
    Pakistani claims

    Pakistani official figures

    Other Pakistani claims

    Indian claims

     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    If you call that a war, looks like India lost.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Norman Schwarzkopf (it's a US name that? more a Deustch one no?). It was 30 years ago. Enough time for US to loose Afganistan war.
    Probably this good general didn't know Marquis de La Fayette... A US classical education failure.

    Egypt, Qatar and more important, India dont agree with you. They trust in France. Some will follow after more and more evidences of F35 failure.

    Edit : You are no more the center of the world. This golden age (for you) ended nearly 20 years ago.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    4000? :haha:
    I take a bet for half that.
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    You may be right, especially if the rest of the world gives up the idea that they can ever compete with USA air power, no need to build thousands of F35s if they are not needed. Originally the USA planned on China and Russia being a significant air power by now.
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    La Fayette was about the last war that France won, Egypt, Qatar , India and the French are all knowen for their excellent military.
     
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    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    And the US are known to claim victories over weak countries won by others.
     
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    They attacked mostly those countries which dont have any air defense but still got their arses kicked in vietnam and have to RUN from the war midway...
     
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    I think USA has already realised F35 is not the plane it was studied for and, after selling the maximum possible to its allies, will switch to another plane or concept.
     
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    WW1 ? you know what it is?
     
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    After the USA came over an won the war.
     
  15. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Yes Americans fly to the rescue of victory and claim all the merits.
     

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